Donald Trump's 2nd term

[Spymaster]

you meant Farage and we both know it

I absolutely didn't, and the fact that you think that speaks volumes as to the bubble you're locked into.

 

[Rob Ray]

The funny thing about the debanking furore is the right didn't care at all when it was happening to foreigners and lefties over years and decades. Freedom of the private market to work with who it wants, baby, look how the banks are joining the fight against the bad guys.

I guess that particular ideological keystone is more conditional than previously suggested.

 

[Ax^]

I absolutely didn't, and the fact that you think that speaks volumes as to the bubble you're locked into.

show another example of all the poor debanked individuals on the caused by evils of liberalism and i'll believe you

 

[two sheds]

Happens all the time in the UK

FCA finds no evidence of customers being debanked over political views

Watchdog launched inquiry after row over Coutts’s handling of Nigel Farage’s account

www.theguardian.com

well nearly

 

[Ax^]

The funny thing about the debanking furore is the right didn't care at all when it was happening to foreigners and lefties over years and decades. Freedom of the private market to work with who it wants, baby, look how the banks are joining the fight against the bad guys.

I guess that particular ideological keystone is more conditional than previously suggested.

well you cannot take right away from white men

that's just not fair ..

most put upon sector of the population as elon and rogan will attest to

 

[Ax^]

Happens all the time in the UK

FCA finds no evidence of customers being debanked over political views

Watchdog launched inquiry after row over Coutts’s handling of Nigel Farage’s account

www.theguardian.com

well nearly

i'll find the links in the morning but in the past have an alternative view political from your employer or industry could see you black balled from the job market

oddly i wonder which side of the political argument was doing it

 

[Rob Ray]

Meanwhile here's left economist Richard Murphy warning about an actual massive overreach into people's financial lives, which the right won't care about until it happens to toadface.

The government’s desire to have access to the bank accounts of every benefit claimant – including pensioners – whilst refusing to take powers to tackle tax abuse – reveals malicious intent on their part

This speech was made by Labour backbench Sir Stephen Timms in the House of Commons on 29 November during a debate on the government's new Data Protection Bill. I thought it so significant it was worth sharing most of it, some more minor issues being edited out for the sake...

www.taxresearch.org.uk

 

[Spymaster]

show another example of all the poor debanked individuals on the caused by evils of liberalism and i'll believe you

I can't be arsed. Just Google it.

Debanking is widespread and has been for years. Not just in the UK, and not just individuals but entire industry and commercial sectors.

You seriously think this is all about Nigel fucking Farage?

De-banking: a hidden menace

Not for the first time, Nigel Farage made the headlines, albeit this time because he chose to announce he had been “de-banked” by the private bank, Coutts, part of the NatWest banking group. The term "de-banking" refers to the act of a bank or financial institution unilaterally severing its...

www.farrer.co.uk

UK government to introduce new rules to restrict ‘de-banking’

The UK chancellor has announced new rules to restrict the practice of ‘de-banking’ amid reports that some banks may have closed customer accounts because of their political beliefs.

www.pinsentmasons.com

The risks of debanking: what you need to know | Bindmans

We discuss the rise in the process of 'debanking', whereby banks abruptly close an individual or company's bank account

www.bindmans.com

 

[Ax^]

ahem examples ...

can always look at Indigenous Advance Ministries if you struggle to find one from the uk ?

 

[Yossarian]

Debanking for political reasons doesn't sound all that widespread, according to the Pinsent Masons link

The regulator collected data from 34 firms for its report, which highlighted four potential cases of political de-banking. But further analysis indicated that these closures were primarily due to customer behaviour, such as racist language directed at staff, rather than the legitimate expression of political beliefs.

According to the FCA report, the most common reasons for personal account closure were inactive or dormant accounts, financial crime, and customer failure to produce identification. For business account closures, the primary reason was the commercial cost of complying with anti-financial crime requirements, which particularly affected cash-intensive, adult entertainment, pawnbroking, and crypto businesses.

 

[Ax^]

hmm if you worried about debanking how about the people who it matters to most

Portsmouth: homeless people now able to open bank accounts

oh but rich right wing cunts come first

 

[Spymaster]

As I said, I can't be arsed to google for you. If you don't get it from those and your own searching just keep believing it's all about Nasty Nigel.

 

[Yossarian]

Crypto porn Nazis losing their British bank accounts probably wasn't a big issue for Trump voters in Iowa, anyway, though who the fuck knows with those people

 

[Ax^]

As I said, I can't be arsed to google for you. If you don't get it from those and your own searching just keep believing it's all about Nasty Nigel.

cannot be arsed beyond using cultural war catch phrases is more the case fella

don't be a kidda

 

[Spymaster]

hmm if you worried about debanking how about the people who it matters to most

Portsmouth: homeless people now able to open bank accounts

oh but rich right wing cunts come first

Again with the crap Two Sheds special. The fact that someone argues against something happening to X, doesn't mean they condone it happening to Y.

Why don't you get this?

 

[Ax^]

anyways back to trump

Here are some key takeaways from the first day of Trump's defamation damages trial​

From CNN's Jeremy Herb, Kara Scannell and Lauren del Valle

Donald Trump attended the first day of his civil defamation trial, watching as a jury was selected to determine how much, if any, damages the former president must pay to E. Jean Carroll for his 2019 defamatory statements about Carroll’s sexual assault allegations.
Trump’s courthouse attendance Tuesday — where he attended jury selection but did not speak — came one day after his resounding Iowa caucuses win, yet another illustration of how Trump’s campaign and legal fortunes are intertwined.
Trump watched as prospective jurors were asked about their political donations to him and his political opponents, whether they believed the 2020 election was stolen and how they got their news. He left court before opening statements to travel to New Hampshire for a campaign event Tuesday evening with the primary one week away.
Here are takeaways from the first day of the defamation trial:

• Carroll's attorney argues for ‘very significant’ damages sum: Carroll’s lawyer Shawn Crowley told the jury Trump’s attacks on her client when he was president “unleashed his followers” and caused her to receive threats. “Trump was president when he made those statements, and he used the world’s biggest microphone to attack Ms. Carroll to humiliate her and to destroy her reputation,” Crowley said. The lawyer argued that the damages awarded to Carroll “should be significant, very significant."
• Trump's attorney says Carroll has prospered since the allegations came out: Trump attorney Alina Habba argued that Carroll’s reputation was not harmed by Trump and that her career prospered since she came forward with the sexual assault allegations. Habba told the jury to remember, “This case is not about assault. We had that case. This case is about the defamation.” Carroll waited for the opportune time to publicly share her story to maximize coverage, Trump’s lawyer claimed.
• Jurors are familiar with Trump: Two of the prospective jurors said they agreed with Trump’s false claims that the 2020 election had been stolen. Three potential jurors said they donated to Trump or groups supporting him. All three said that wouldn’t affect their ability to be fair and impartial. None of those prospective jurors were ultimately selected for the trial jury. More than 10 said they’d donated to Biden and other top Democrats. Three prospective jurors said they believe Trump is being treated unfairly by the US court system. A male juror in the gallery stood to answer that question before it was his turn.
• What’s next in the trial: Carroll is slated to testify Wednesday in the trial, which is expected to last a few days. Trump’s lawyers have also indicated he plans to testify, although Trump has changed his mind on testifying before in other trials. The judge has limited the testimony in the case to damages and harm, ruling that the jury’s verdict in the first defamation trial will also carry over to this case.

 

[Rob Ray]

Debanking for political reasons doesn't sound all that widespread

It's not all that common, but it's also been going on for years. My main response has been vague annoyance that once again we're being told that it's a sudden world-ending discovery because it happened to Farage, which is fucking typical of the right. If it's not happening to my team it's not a problem, etc etc.

 

[Ax^]

Again with the crap Two Sheds special. The fact that someone argues against something happening to X, doesn't mean they're supporting it happening to Y.

Why don't you get this?

2 shed special?

you were talking out of your arse and got called on it

feel free to go to bed and stop shitting on a thread

troll again tomorrow

 

[Spymaster]

2 shed special?

you were talking out of your arse and got called on it

feel free to go to bed and stop shitting on a thread

troll again tomorrow

I'm only replying to you mate. I disagree with you. That's all.

Don't worry, you'll get plenty of support in the morning!

And you're just plain wrong about debanking/Farage.

 

[Ax^]

Again with the crap Two Sheds special. The fact that someone argues against something happening to X, doesn't mean they condone it happening to Y.

Why don't you get this?

 

[bcuster]

Why that 'landslide' win in Iowa could spell trouble for Trump

Opinion: Donald Trump solidly won the Iowa Republican caucus. But it's not the landslide victory that many seem to think.

www.azcentral.com

 

[Spymaster]

You realise that's a Godwin?

 

[_Russ_]

well you cannot take right away from white men

that's just not fair ..

most put upon sector of the population as elon and rogan

You should try harder in disguising your Racism

 

[Ax^]

You should try harder in disguising your Racism

oh.you can fuck off as well Russ ..

 

[Serge Forward]

Forget Farage. It's happened to hundreds of organisations and individuals. Read something other than the Guardian.

Evidence please.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Proof that Trumpism is a cult part 8890745858.

Here he is telling his supporters - even if they are sick - to go out into temperatures of -30 to vote for him - even if they die:



He's doing his classic 'joking/not joking' routine, but that shouldn't obscure the content of what he's saying here

 

[chandlerp]

I mean, yes, go vote for the guy in a meaningless vote, then drop dead before the actual election. big brain energy on show there.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

"the fact that Mr Trump sexually abused - indeed, raped - Ms. Carroll has been conclusively established" from the last Carroll vs Trump lawsuit:

 

[kabbes]

Why that 'landslide' win in Iowa could spell trouble for Trump

Opinion: Donald Trump solidly won the Iowa Republican caucus. But it's not the landslide victory that many seem to think.

www.azcentral.com

I’m inclined to agree that if 50% of Republican primary voters in Iowa don’t want him, that doesn’t bode well for him in a general election. He lost in 2020, and I suspect that his approval amongst Republicans was higher then than now.

 

[Ax^]

desantis beat him in this round in 2016