Donald Trump's 2nd term

[phildwyer]

Global demilitarisation is a goal for sure, and it can be done, but it is a process that happens as part of a wider mutual socialist, internationalist project. Shock actions by Trump are never going to be part of "long-held goals of the left"

That's where I disagree with people about Trump.

I think good things are often done by bad people. Individuals are tools in the hands of the Zeitgeist, which frequently produces outcomes opposite to their conscious intentions. Trump doesn't intend to bring about the end of the American Empire, but he may well end up doing so.

 

[Ax^]

so your plan is to let a race war start in America and let the iron curtain comedown again across eastern Europe

and that somehow a goal of the left

wtf have you been smoking

 

[Ax^]

if anyone want to remember the interwebz in 2016

spend 5 minutes replying to dywer

 

[Yossarian]

He'll stop radical leftists like Obama from leading the country into World War II, apparently

 

[skyscraper101]

Biden's so visibly past it, he's practically handing it to Trump on a plate at this point. Why would anybody even want to be running for office at 82 years old? Just retire with your dogs already. The short sightedness of it all is so depressing.

 

[nogojones]

Biden's so visibly past it, he's practically handing it to Trump on a plate at this point. Why would anybody even want to be running for office at 82 years old? Just retire with your dogs already. The short sightedness of it all is so depressing.

Yeah, hand that baton onto Hillary.

 

[krtek a houby]

That's why Trump's ahead in the polls though---people are sick of the Ukraine.

Sick of the what now?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Sick of the what now?

Sick of dwyer.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

As it now seems to be a certainty (if you believe certain polls), what's on the cards for the next time round?

Immigration, another travel ban and war with Mexico?

Trump 2.0: A second term would see him pick more and uglier fights on immigration

Though many of his promises are bluster, his years in office showed that any administration dedicated to reducing all types of immigration has a lot of tools at its disposal to do so.

thehill.com

1. Ukraine will lose against Russia after he pulls all support
2. NATO will be thrown into chaos as a result of the above; he'll threaten to withdraw if other countries don't pay more
3. He'll withdraw (again) from the Paris Agreement
4. Israel and Saudi accord will be back on the agenda
5. China will invade Taiwan and he'll waffle and do nothing
6. He'll pardon and free everyone convicted over January 6th
7. The US will experience civil outrage that starts to look and feel like the beginnings of a civil war

 

[phildwyer]

Sick of the what now?

The Ukrainian war.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Sick of dwyer.

He sure loves defending rapists doesn't he?

 

[Mezzer]

The Ukrainian war.

Another one on ignore. Too thick to be bothered with.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

7. The US will experience civil outrage that starts to look and feel like the beginnings of a civil war

Agreed no remotely civilised person could tolerate living under a second Trumpist regime.

 

[phildwyer]

Agreed no remotely civilised person could tolerate living under a second Trumpist regime.

Well Trump's ahead in the polls atm, so I guess most Americans are uncivilized....
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[Ax^]

odd thing about political polls is most normally people just avoid them

"hello sir madam we like to get you opinion on this polling data"


" oh fuck off, not today or sorry a little bit busy maybe another time"

now can anyone ever get a trumper to shut the fuck up regardless of the situation

polls might be a little off

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Hopefully he'll get so excited about a 2nd term that he'll have a heart attack.

Reminds me of the night the vermin got into No 10 in 2010. I was in London and working late, and when I got on the train at Euston we'd just set off and people were talking about how bad it was going to be, and one chap said Cameron was probably masturbating in the toilet at No 10. After a grim day it made people in the carriage laugh.

 

[krtek a houby]

The Ukrainian war.

That's not what you said upthread, though

 

[Ax^]

stable jenius

 

[Kid_Eternity]

odd thing about political polls is most normally people just avoid them

"hello sir madam we like to get you opinion on this polling data"


" oh fuck off, not today or sorry a little bit busy maybe another time"

now can anyone ever get a trumper to shut the fuck up regardless of the situation

polls might be a little off

Polling is always a little generous this far out and shrink when people are actually paying close attention.

 

[phildwyer]

Polling is always a little generous this far out and shrink when people are actually paying close attention.

Generous to who?

 

[Ax^]

also more polarised groups would bring a strong result this far out

trumps playing to his base but everyone is watching it play out and know what they get if they vote for him now so we see how it pans out

 

[Yossarian]

Polling has been really shitty and inaccurate in the last couple of presidential elections, the worrying part is that the shittiness and inaccuracy has been in massively underestimating Trump's support - polls in 2016 and 2020 showed Clinton and Biden with big leads, both times the difference came down to fewer than 100,000 votes in swing states, IIRC

 

[steveo87]

(I've screen shot this so we can laugh about it on the bunker - there will be a U75 only bunker, right?)

Surely, given everything that's gone and going on, even the Anerican electorate aren't that stupid?

 

[existentialist]

Another one on ignore. Too thick to be bothered with.

It's not that he's thick. He just doesn't mind regurgitating Russian talking points.

 

[Yossarian]

Surely, given everything that's gone and going on, even the Anerican electorate aren't that stupid?

 

[steveo87]

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True.

But the optimist/hipster in me would say that light beer is Pisswater.

 

[phildwyer]

the worrying part is that the shittiness and inaccuracy has been in massively underestimating Trump's support

This did not go unnoticed by Trump's supporters, who quickly concluded that the polls were being deliberately rigged. Later this was a major reason for their skepticism about the election result.

 

[PR1Berske]

True.

But the optimist/hipster in me would say that light beer is Pisswater.

Americans only drink pisswater. Their drinking culture is embarrassing.

 

[Ax^]

This did not go unnoticed by Trump's supporters, who quickly concluded that the polls were being deliberately rigged. Later this was a major reason for their skepticism about the election result.

trump supporters suggesting thinks have been deliberately rigged

pull the other one

 

[Ax^]

Polling has been really shitty and inaccurate in the last couple of presidential elections, the worrying part is that the shittiness and inaccuracy has been in massively underestimating Trump's support - polls in 2016 and 2020 showed Clinton and Biden with big leads, both times the difference came down to fewer than 100,000 votes in swing states, IIRC

hmm the swing states are about the electrol college in the states

that how he beat Hillary whilst losing the popular vote