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Because it's not possible that you could lie about anything else apart from being in Mexico. You arrogant fuck.
Donald Trump's 2nd term
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Because it's not possible that you could lie about anything else apart from being in Mexico. You arrogant fuck.
krtek a houby
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On border patrol?
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
He's from the Britain First White Cliff Walking Small Boat Watchers (US Division).
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Yeah, “independent journalism” for this fascist dipshit is Russia Today, Press TV and the Grey Zone.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I know people who have worked for all three. The sensible ones quickly moved on and had some instructive stories about their experiences. In the former case there were two floors at the old RT HQ, one for the journalists and one for their Russian handlers, who very much were not hands-off. "Independent" was not the word I heard about it. Generally speaking there are three types of people who sign up to work for that end of the industry, folks who really need the income, folks with zero qualms about repeating absolute nonsense as long as they get money and a profile, and folks whose personal dogmas match up with the firm's general objectives.
Can you clarify the 'all three' you refer to please? I'm not clear what you referring to, despite paging back through a few previous posts.
Thanks. Have only heard of the first tbh. Was rather hoping it included GB News.
Not a million miles from the BBC tbf....
Rob Ray
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The second is Iran-backed, the third is Max Blumenthal doing a dual grift of crowdfunding and cash from unnamed "progressive individuals" - ie. shady bastards he'd rather not namecheck.
Edit: The only person I've met who's done GBeebies is Lisa Mckenzie afaik, it's probably a bit too active turncoat for my contacts list, you lose more opportunities than you gain unless you're up for nailing your entire future to gammon Toryism.
Edit: The only person I've met who's done GBeebies is Lisa Mckenzie afaik, it's probably a bit too active turncoat for my contacts list, you lose more opportunities than you gain unless you're up for nailing your entire future to gammon Toryism.
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krtek a houby
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Bullshit.
For all the mistakes made by the beeb over the years (and there are many of those) there are still people there with integrity.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
If only you applied that cynicism to the firms you want to believe.
The BBC is the best of the Western MSM by a very long way, but it's not above bending the truth on certain issues. Israel springs to mind.
Rob Ray
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Much as Phil's whirring mess of a bullshit compass can't countenance it, the Beeb's got basic professional editorial standards and a fear of serious litigation which tend to impact on how egregiously it can lie and dissemble. That's not to say it doesn't regularly omit, exaggerate, misdirect and sometimes lie. It definitely does, especially on matters the government cares about – it's a State broadcaster after all – but Phil's casual out-of-hand dismissal is laughable.
The Beeb's relationship with accuracy, subject selection etc is complex, full of contrasting and contradictory pressures, as is always the case with large institutions, all of which gets boiled down to a pathetic rendition of cartoon villainy when the tin foil set get talking about it.
krtek a houby
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Maybe pay closer attention to Jeremy Bowen and Orla Guerin reports.
It's not all toeing the line.
I basically agree with you about the people who work at the Beeb, but they're subject to pressure from above, and it is exerted when it feels the need.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
They never really recovered from the WMD/dossier/David Kelly fallout with the Blair govt...
The BBC disgraced themselves over Jeremy Corbyn, and over Red Ken before that--both times using anti-semitism as the stick. Before that they disgraced themselves over Scargill and Benn. Also over every war since the Falklands.
The people who work there are great, but they'll disgrace themselves when ordered to do so on pain of employment.
Rob Ray
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It's had a rough ride pretty much since Blair, yeah. People often focus on the hostile environment fostered under Boris Johnson towards BBC funding but Cameron and Osborne were just as bad with threats, attempts to put their men in at the top levels, teamups with Murdoch to trash its reputation etc. Funding cuts and the threat of such alone have hollowed out much of its formerly pretty decent investigations department and absolutely ruined its regional programming.
Again, you're looking for the simple case here when it isn't - actually it's an interesting cultural-political case study that could stand a much more in-depth look one of these days. The BBC didn't afaics need much bearing down from government in that case because its institutional tendencies were already aligned with the project to destroy Corbynism. Newsnight wasn't acting on instruction when it did that splash image of him with the Kremlin in the background and a red star superimposed on his hat, that was the watercooler chat about him and had been for a long time.
The Beeb's journalists, particularly the survivors from years of cuts, tend towards a centrism which pretends to itself that this amounts to evenhandedness. But that doesn't mean everyone in the firm agreed either, or that all the content was so inclined. And those same institutional tendencies do often clash with Tory/State values, which is usually what fuels the spats where it's accused of a left-wing bias.
Again, you're looking for the simple case here when it isn't - actually it's an interesting cultural-political case study that could stand a much more in-depth look one of these days. The BBC didn't afaics need much bearing down from government in that case because its institutional tendencies were already aligned with the project to destroy Corbynism. Newsnight wasn't acting on instruction when it did that splash image of him with the Kremlin in the background and a red star superimposed on his hat, that was the watercooler chat about him and had been for a long time.
The Beeb's journalists, particularly the survivors from years of cuts, tend towards a centrism which pretends to itself that this amounts to evenhandedness. But that doesn't mean everyone in the firm agreed either, or that all the content was so inclined. And those same institutional tendencies do often clash with Tory/State values, which is usually what fuels the spats where it's accused of a left-wing bias.
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krtek a houby
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It's difficult for staff when they are told not to use social media to express their views, when wrong UN's like Fox inspire a mob to turn up outside their place of work, when cuts decimated the workforce... and management cared more about not upsetting the government of the day than dedicated workers.
The workers behind the scenes, in particular.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
You're so full of s---, the toilet's jealous.
Having unregulated "talking heads" filling YouTube with hours of diatribe in the name of free speech is why we've got so many boys filled with misogyny and negativity, how we ended up with people believing the Trump lies over a stolen election, and much else besides.
It's not "independent media", and you know it. It's dangerous, rabble rousing, minority hating, democracy denying, misogynistic crap.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Another thread shat all over and rendered unreadable by Dwyer.
krtek a houby
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Yeah, it's well Mexico
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
The rhetoric of a fascist tyrant:
I know others on here don't agree with my stance on Trump supporters but I reiterate my attitude to them: fuck all of them. If you attend these Nuremberg-style rallies and whoop and cheer some uber-privileged would-be tough guy engaging in the most hateful, dehumanising rhetoric about desperate, marginalised people you are simply a contemptible piece of shit who doesn't deserve any solidarity.
I know others on here don't agree with my stance on Trump supporters but I reiterate my attitude to them: fuck all of them. If you attend these Nuremberg-style rallies and whoop and cheer some uber-privileged would-be tough guy engaging in the most hateful, dehumanising rhetoric about desperate, marginalised people you are simply a contemptible piece of shit who doesn't deserve any solidarity.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
This is the thing which baffles me about certain posters still posting here.
We know Trump wants to be a dictator (beyond just day one)
We know Trump wants to restrict or even stop elections
We know Trump wants to only have judges he appointed, following laws only he approves.
If you support Trump, as certain posters do, you support the destruction of American democracy and the implementation of a dictatorship.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
But Jeff, it's all about owning the libs...
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
But PR1, American democracy is a sham...
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
They also support the destruction of Ukrainian democracy and the implementation of a Russian puppet dictatorship.
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