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Donald Trump the road that might not lead to the White House - Redux 2024 thread.


A longtime friend of Donald Trump’s admitted on the stand Tuesday that their relationship had devolved into an orchestrated scheme to influence the 2016 election on Trump’s behalf.

David Pecker, the former publisher of the National Enquirer and former CEO of its parent company, American Media Inc., told the court Tuesday that he and Trump had coordinated not just to publish positive coverage of his friend ahead of the 2016 election, but also to publish negative coverage of other presidential candidates. In doing so, Pecker practically admitted to the catch-and-kill media scheme that Trump has repeatedly denied.

Trump had asked “what can I do and what my magazines can do to help the campaign,” Pecker said. Pecker had responded that he could “publish positive stories about Trump” and “negative stories about his opponents.”

Stories about Hillary Clinton were already popular amongst the Enquirer’s audience, so continuing to publish those articles was a “mutual benefit,” according to Pecker. Still, Pecker knew the plan should be kept “highly, highly confidential,” describing the undocumented meeting he had with Trump and Trump’s then-fixer Michael Cohen in August 2015 as “just an agreement among friends.” Pecker would later tell the Enquirer’s former editor-in-chief, Dylan Howard, to instruct the east and west coast bureau chiefs of the publication to redirect any stories about Trump to Pecker.
Sounds a little damning. I'm just disappointed that I can't work out a way to get Trump's Pecker into the post.
 
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I'm starting to be a bit sympathetic for him though. :(

He has to attend criminal proceedings—and sit in a chair, and not attack the judge or witnesses or other people involved—because that is how these things work. He also can’t decide on a random Tuesday that he’d rather play golf than show up, and he’s not allowed to bring his own space heater to warm up his section of the courtroom—because, again, that’s not how any of this works.

Most people understand that these very basic rules are standard for anyone on trial for allegedly committing a bunch of crimes, and that they’re really just…not a big deal. But according to at least one Fox News anchor, the rules are clear evidence that the former president is being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment, the likes of which this country has never seen.
Incredibly, that was not all Watters had to say last night about the supposed injustices Trump is facing. In an amazing moment of unintended hilarity, the Fox News at one point began prescribing a regimen for Trump—and came off sounding like he was giving directions to the pet-sitter taking care of his elderly dog:
"The guy needs exercise" :(

 

Eleven Republicans who submitted a document to Congress falsely declaring that Donald Trump beat Joe Biden in Arizona in the 2020 presidential election were charged Wednesday with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, marking the fourth state to bring charges against “fake electors.”

The defendants include the former chair of the Arizona Republican Party, a 2022 U.S. Senate candidate and two sitting state legislators. The grand jury indictment also describes an unindicted co-conspirator who is clearly Trump.

The 11 people who had been nominated to be Arizona’s Republican electors met in Phoenix, Ariz. on Dec. 14, 2020, to sign a certificate saying they were “duly elected and qualified” electors and claiming that Trump carried the state. A one-minute video of the signing ceremony was posted on social media by the Arizona Republican Party at the time. The document was later sent to Congress and the National Archives, where it was ignored.
 

Eleven Republicans who submitted a document to Congress falsely declaring that Donald Trump beat Joe Biden in Arizona in the 2020 presidential election were charged Wednesday with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, marking the fourth state to bring charges against “fake electors.”

The defendants include the former chair of the Arizona Republican Party, a 2022 U.S. Senate candidate and two sitting state legislators. The grand jury indictment also describes an unindicted co-conspirator who is clearly Trump.

The 11 people who had been nominated to be Arizona’s Republican electors met in Phoenix, Ariz. on Dec. 14, 2020, to sign a certificate saying they were “duly elected and qualified” electors and claiming that Trump carried the state. A one-minute video of the signing ceremony was posted on social media by the Arizona Republican Party at the time. The document was later sent to Congress and the National Archives, where it was ignored.

I wonder if Bankrupt Rudy Giuliani will be hitch-hiking to Phoenix for his court dates
 
SCOTUS Immunity hearing beginning in about 10 minutes:



Will be fairly annoying because the very fact SCOTUS are allowing Trump this appeal, kinda means he's already won. Pricks.
 
Alito seems to have been arguing that Trump not having full immunity would be an unacceptable threat to democracy, because a president accused of crimes might seek unconstitutional means to avoid leaving office.

So, Trump must be allowed to try to subvert the outcome of a presidential election, because otherwise he might be tempted to try to subvert the outcome of a presidential election, which must not be allowed to happen.
 
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Trump going for full despot immunity as a former president


jesus if i was Biden i'd have seal team 6 parked outside his house and send him a note
if you win the kicking in the front door :)
 
More to laugh about -

Judge rejects Trump's bid to throw out costly defamation case​

If you're getting confused with these two cases, we've got some bad news - a third court hearing relating to Trump has been going on. We'll keep it simple with just this post.
A judge has rejected the ex-president's attempt to throw out a defamation verdict against him - which requires the former president to pay a woman $83.3m in damages.
Writer E. Jean Carroll said Trump defamed her after she accused him of raping her decades ago.
The court had said Trump should pay $18.3m (£14.4m) in compensation and $65m (£51m) in punitive damages.
Today, US District Judge Lewis Kaplan said Trump was not entitled to a new trial or judgment as a matter of law.

Live update at 17:31 - Donald Trump court latest: Trump-appointed judge seems to take issue with ex-president's argument in key Supreme Court hearing
 
hmm hopefully even the crooked set up in the Scotus cannot even stand up the the idea
that after 247 years and 46 presidents that one orange fuck knuckle need immunity for leading an insurrection against house of representatives trying to
proceed with the peaceful transition of power to the next elected president
 
Interesting who gets the title "President". Suppose Trump believes he's still Pres (and technically ex PotUS are referred to as Presidents) but if he is still The President and Biden isn't... doesn't that disqualify him from a third term?
I'm not sure what the rules say. Are they that you can't win more than two elections, or that you can't serve more than two terms? In his tiny mind he's aiming to do the former, but hasn't been allowed to serve his deservedly won second term.
 
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