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Donald Trump the road that might not lead to the White House - Redux 2024 thread.

Shit, somebody set himself on fire outside the Trump trial courthouse - he doesn't seem to have had strong pro or anti-Trump beliefs, he scattered pamphlets with links to a manifesto that links cryptocurrency, Stanley Kubrick, and The Simpsons to a plot to brainwash the world


Dead now.


Looks like he was a "both sides" conspiraloon...

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Oh dear. Trouble with the bond. Amongst other things it turns out the company that is underwriting it is actually valued at less than the bond itself; they are using a shell company based in the Caymans to artificially inflate their actual worth:


Poetic, seeing what the fine is for in the first place.
 
surely they sieze his assests now - hes just dicking them about. Presumably becasue he hasnt actually got the money.
The important part is not that he hasn't got the money (it is half a billion after all) but that he hasn't got the draw to get it from elsewhere. His sphere of influence is over other chancers and wannabes, this really is the emperor being shown beyond any reasonable doubt to be stark bollock naked.

The remaining bunch who can't comprehend "reasonable" will still vote for him (and it is a lot of people), but it's not enough.
 
tbf I imagine she's making sure there's absolutely no way Trump can wriggle once the appeal fails, by reducing the bond, then accepting the dodgy bond and so on, bending over backwards to help him and so on. Then once the appeal is thrown out he'll have nowhere at all to turn and if the bond company turns out to not have the money and Trump doesn't either, nor he has the assets to cover it, his bigly-billionaire-bullshit is blown once and for all.
 
tbf I imagine she's making sure there's absolutely no way Trump can wriggle once the appeal fails, by reducing the bond, then accepting the dodgy bond and so on, bending over backwards to help him and so on. Then once the appeal is thrown out he'll have nowhere at all to turn and if the bond company turns out to not have the money and Trump doesn't either, nor he has the assets to cover it, his bigly-billionaire-bullshit is blown once and for all.

His supporters will no doubt tell us how smart he is for figuring out how not to pay it.
 
tbf I imagine she's making sure there's absolutely no way Trump can wriggle once the appeal fails, by reducing the bond, then accepting the dodgy bond and so on, bending over backwards to help him and so on. Then once the appeal is thrown out he'll have nowhere at all to turn and if the bond company turns out to not have the money and Trump doesn't either, nor he has the assets to cover it, his bigly-billionaire-bullshit is blown once and for all.
Are there any rules about bankrupts running for President? We know that those serving time can still run the country in prison.
 
I guess the AG might have decided it would be a bad look to seize all Trump's assets and have him live in a tent outside the courthouse while the hush-money trial is ongoing, hilarious though it would have been
 
I guess the AG might have decided it would be a bad look to seize all Trump's assets and have him live in a tent outside the courthouse while the hush-money trial is ongoing, hilarious though it would have been

It does look as if there was a genuine issue which was resolved by ensuring that the collateral used was put under the control of someone other than Trump.
 
Actually looked like strong opening statement by prosecutors, then ...

2. Trump appeared uncomfortable​

During much of Colangelo’s opening statement, Trump appeared uncomfortable in his seat with his brow furrowed while the unsavory details of the alleged affair with Daniels and his boasts about grabbing women’s genitals in the infamous Access Hollywood tape were read out to the jury.

But part of the Access Hollywood tape that was read out verbatim – when Trump remarked he could grab women “by the pussy” – caused Trump to frown deeper and fidget in his seat. The next six weeks are expected to be a test for Trump to keep his composure.
and
The point Blanche tried to stress was that Trump had nothing to do with the hush-money payments and how it was all arranged because Trump left it up to his former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen.

Blanche also suggested Trump did nothing wrong in trying to influence the 2016 election, in part because catch-and-kill schemes are not illegal. “Entering into a non-disclosure agreement is perfectly legal,” Blanche said.

But other parts of his opening statement seemed bizarre. Blanche tried to portray Trump as just a family man – which felt jarring against the affair allegations. And Blanche once added Trump “is a man” like him – oddly, with no follow-up statement.
:)
eta: this is quite good, too
Blanche also found some of his statements stricken after the judge sustained prosecutors’ objections, including on assertions that Cohen previously lied in court and that Trump did everything on the advice of counsel.
(my bold) :D
 
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