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Do you disapprove of people who are planning an overseas holiday this summer?

Is planning an overseas holiday this summer the right thing to do

  • Yes - I’m already booked and will go away regardless of the rules

    Votes: 5 3.7%
  • I’d be booked if the testing regime was more relaxed

    Votes: 7 5.1%
  • I would like a holiday abroad but not until Covid restrictions are over

    Votes: 56 41.2%
  • No they’re selfish bastards thinking only of themselves

    Votes: 32 23.5%
  • NA - I always holiday within the UK

    Votes: 11 8.1%
  • What’s a holiday? I work 400 days a year down the mines

    Votes: 25 18.4%

  • Total voters
    136
I love Crete! Probably the only place I'd consider going back to (because I love to see new places rather than anywhere being particularly bad).
I spent a fortnight in Crete aged 18 exploring classical sites, I got the bus into Heraklion every day and then out to another part of the island. Really saw a different side to the island as was a long way off the tourist trail. Was a wonderful trip care of a school travel grant.
 
I've always quite liked the idea of going to Greece, or more particularly one of the islands. What are they like for solo travellers?

I don't think I'll be going while this Covid thing is going on, but it might be nice to think about something for the future.
 
I've always quite liked the idea of going to Greece, or more particularly one of the islands. What are they like for solo travellers?

I don't think I'll be going while this Covid thing is going on, but it might be nice to think about something for the future.

Yeah, I have wanted to go to Crete after reading about the WW2 stuff there. Have images of evenings spent eating sardines and drinking the local spirit in a small village by the sea. Surprised some people here haven't enjoyed it there.
 
Yeah, I have wanted to go to Crete after reading about the WW2 stuff there. Have images of evenings spent eating sardines and drinking the local spirit in a small village by the sea. Surprised some people here haven't enjoyed it there.
We stayed in Rethymnon. It was really quiet but we could find a party if we wanted one.

I love Greece and the Greek Islands tbf. I go to Spain regularly (in normal times) as my folks have a place there, so it’s easy and convenient, but I love Greece much more than Spain.
 
I spent a fortnight in Crete aged 18 exploring classical sites, I got the bus into Heraklion every day and then out to another part of the island. Really saw a different side to the island as was a long way off the tourist trail. Was a wonderful trip care of a school travel grant.

Yeah we stayed in Heraklion rather than a tourist resort which I think helped for us. Still visited Agios Nikolaos and Elounda, and a trip up the mountains to Lasithi plateau plus some other trips. And there's a couple of beaches you can get to quite easily from Heraklion, it's a good base I reckon.
 
Piece of piss, don't tell anyone but Colombia is the place to be. Fly to Bogota (via Madrid is cheaper), then to Providencia via San Andres (boat from there or fly if flush). The most perfect Caribbean island with no Euro/US pricks:

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^^^an islet off Providencia, but you get the idea...



Then on to Cartagena for some culture and if you must you can do a jungle trek, I don't care much for spiders so will opt not to join you on that.

Starting with the beach eases you in to the culture/environment the other way around is a headfuck.
Colombia is great, I think the chances of finding yourself in the middle of a gang or rebel/army/police shoot out have gone down massively since I was there too.
 
I'm keeping a closer eye on the red/amber/green list changes as I have a trip coming up. I have a feeling Turkey will change to amber before I come back, but if it doesn't, I have quite an impressive choice of places to come back via. Thinking either Romania or Ukraine as never been to either.

The Brits in Turkey are understandably really pissed off to still be on the red list when India isn't.
 
Well, my flight to Istanbul just got cancelled, along with all other Pegasus flights from the UK to Istanbul until at least the end of the month. I've rebooked with Turkish Airlines but will have to go to London. If that doesn't also get cancelled. If that cancels I will give up.
 
Well, my flight to Istanbul just got cancelled, along with all other Pegasus flights from the UK to Istanbul until at least the end of the month. I've rebooked with Turkish Airlines but will have to go to London. If that doesn't also get cancelled. If that cancels I will give up.
I suppose you could always fly to an amber country and from there to Turkey if you need to go, but a bit of a faff to be sure.
Numbers there have been going up again in the past couple of weeks.
 
Well, my flight to Istanbul just got cancelled, along with all other Pegasus flights from the UK to Istanbul until at least the end of the month. I've rebooked with Turkish Airlines but will have to go to London. If that doesn't also get cancelled. If that cancels I will give up.
Fly to Cyprus and cross over via Ledara to the northern half?
 
Crete's ok, it's big enough to have nice places as well as the awful stuff. I hired a car and drove all over, really enjoyed it. Then our flight got delayed and they put us up in a town called 'Gas' or 'Oil' or 'Shell' which looked exactly as you'd expect. That wasn't so good.

I love Greece though, been a few times. For the sun, not the ancient culture. I think Skiathos was my favourite, but it helped that with our accommodation/allocation on arrival £99 for a week holiday we got dumped for some reason in a 3 star hotel on the beach. Literally on the beach, it's where we ate breakfast. And Skopelos is right next door so you can get two islands for the price of one.

Been to Colombia, loved Colombia, but I've never seen so many sub machine guns on the street in my life. That was 2008 though. Colombia is a beautiful and interesting country.

All I'd say is going all the way to S.America and not seeing Machu Picchu just means you're going to have to go all the way back again one day.
 
It's already going to be a ridiculous rigmarole coming back (tests, 11 nights in Amber or green country, trying to find somewhere with reliable Internet so I can work). I'm only really willing to go if I can fly direct, so just hoping my rebooked flight will go ahead. I'll keep an eye on the flight I've booked to see if it's being cancelled or not in the upcoming weeks..not excited about five hour coach journey to Stansted.
 
Why don't we all fly to Greece, Turkey, Italy, Spain, California, Siberia and the Russian Far East this summer, and then down to Australia in the winter? We'd best get a move on, mind you, because they won't be worth visiting in a few years, what with rising temperatures, catastrophic fires and all the attendant destruction and disruption? Plus, when populations start emigrating elsewhere there won't be so many locals to serve us drinks.
 
You should have gone to Loutro. Which is quite literally one of the most beautiful places in the world. Spymaster may not know this, but he mentioned it on here about a decade ago and I’ve taken the lads twice since. No roads or cars, you have to get the ferry there. Stay in the Loutro hotel. It’s basic but perfect. No pool (there’s no space due to the mountain) but the sea is like… there. The first opportunity I have I’m going back. I actually seriously dream of somehow learning Greek and living there. There are turtles. And a mountain (hence no roads).

Shhhhh! We don’t tell people about it! Especially not the Old Fenix hotel.
 
Mate of mine has just had a great holiday in Kos. All included etc.

Just been moaning about how Easyjet staff woke him up on plane to remind him to put his mask back on. Boo hoo etc.

From this one case I judge all foreign holidayers to be entitled cunts! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Has anyone noticed a fair bit of Greece, Turkey, Italy, Spain and other "holiday destinations" are actually on fire right now? Does that impact your thinking at all?
Our next planned holiday activity is a day trip to Whitby next week so no it doesn't
 
Has anyone noticed a fair bit of Greece, Turkey, Italy, Spain and other "holiday destinations" are actually on fire right now? Does that impact your thinking at all?
Personally, no. A very small amount of Turkey is on fire (and I think the majority of the forest fires are under control). Life goes on largely as normal there.
 
Has anyone noticed a fair bit of Greece, Turkey, Italy, Spain and other "holiday destinations" are actually on fire right now? Does that impact your thinking at all

I have flown a lot in my life, for work as well as not, but I have stopped flying in Europe the last 6ish years (I still would if it was urgent though, like a family/friend emergency). It's impacted on how I go away on trips. I used to go to Berlin or France or similar a few times a year for long weekends or a week. I now go less (once a year maybe?), I stay longer when I do go, and I get the train (or sometimes drive) there. It's for me a much more enjoyable way of doing it. And yes, I know not everyone can do that, and no I don't think it's an important change to make, and nor do I tell others to do similar.
 
Personally, no. A very small amount of Turkey is on fire (and I think the majority of the forest fires are under control). Life goes on largely as normal there.

Really?

Fires rage around the world: where are the worst blazes?

"Turkey - Blazes have swept through swaths of the southern coast for the past 10 days, killing at least eight people. Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated from their homes, and fire has devastated vast tracts of pine forest and agricultural land. Rain brought some respite over the weekend."
 
Really?

Fires rage around the world: where are the worst blazes?

"Turkey - Blazes have swept through swaths of the southern coast for the past 10 days, killing at least eight people. Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated from their homes, and fire has devastated vast tracts of pine forest and agricultural land. Rain brought some respite over the weekend."

Its hard to know for sure due to difficulties reporting in Turkey. But in a country of 80 million, it's not directly affecting the vast majority of people. Not downplaying it, it's devastating but I dont see why the fires would mean people shouldn't go to another part of a vast country.

Many places depend on tourism. I'm not personally travelling for the purpose of a holiday but I wouldn't judge someone who was.
 
Its hard to know for sure due to difficulties reporting in Turkey. But in a country of 80 million, it's not directly affecting the vast majority of people. Not downplaying it, it's devastating but I dont see why the fires would mean people shouldn't go to another part of a vast country.

Many places depend on tourism. I'm not personally travelling for the purpose of a holiday but I wouldn't judge someone who was.

I was thinking more about avoiding unnecessary travel, especially flights, because of awareness of its environmental impact, rather than simply not flying to places that are currently on fire.
 
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