DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Nobody wants to eat anything thats lived in london. The meat probably glows in the dark and has weird tumors.
Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well then it becomes an issue of convenience. Why go to the bother of flavouring or processing unpalatable meat when there's plenty available that's delicious straight off the carcass?
That's certainly the case for many.
I'd try fox but I've heard it's vile and needs to be salted and soaked etc. Squirrels are delicious and should be eaten more. Pigeons the same although I'd have health concerns about eating the filthy things that fly around London. Same issue with rats.
not-bono-ever
meh
its all down to cost at the end of the day- there are increasingly acceptable alternatives to isinglass available now and the changes in the ranges of beers & tolerance for cloud and colour makes it much easier these days if you were vegan and a drinker. in the bad old days, the need for mediocrity and consistency from the market dominant huge brewers made the use of clarifying agensts common ( and nasty) - I lived in Germany and the wheat beers were vegan pretty much IIRC
not-bono-ever
meh
you should see the shit that the foxes eat on my street. I would not want to nom on an animal that has spent its life going through bins and eating fake morleys and vomit
And shitty nappies
not-bono-ever
meh
I have been thinking a lot about this of late as it happens- I am as fat as a pig due to the carbs I load up on as a shit veggie. I am not getting any younger and have seriously considered a move to a selective protein heavy diet with meat for health reasons. fucking hell.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
In order not to waste anything. I'm a big advocate of using everything when you eat an animal. There are very few parts of the animal that cannot be turned into something tasty. I'm not sold on tendon or cartilage, but most other things.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
How about more protein in a veggie diet, and increase relative amount of healthy fats to aid satiety?
not-bono-ever
meh
I know, its another option - its easier to do with meat and I am probably the laziest person on this board. and its the carbs that I am addicted to, so need to tackle that primarily. politically, it would be a climb down for me with meat though. as if anyone cares
Watermelon Man
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Sorry my friend. I know I may have been having fun on here but I'm calling bullshit on this. Don't take it personally. You are "fat as a pig" due to the fat you load up on as a "shit veggie". And protein? don't fall for that bullshit. Seriously. Just don't.
Watermelon Man
Member
And shitty nappies
Yep. Fortunately, there is bacon from those animals that don't eat shit...
Watermelon Man
Member
Seriously, this is bullshit. Don't take it personally, but you don't need more protein. It's an absolute myth.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I got really heavy through a combo of comfort eating on carbs and lack of exercise a few years back.
I guess it might be easier to redress with meat for protein-per-calorie reasons (tuna and chicken are really good on that count, but obviously chickens ethics etc. <everyone can castigate me for not caring much about tuna later>) unless you supplement it. Tofu is pretty good on the ppc score too, but not to everyone's taste.
Rice and beans make a good protein combo but then that's carbs again and quite a few calories if you're prone to pigging out on them like I was.
Sure some of the saner vegans on the thread will have good tips.
That's OK. I'd never considered eating fox bacon.
Watermelon Man
Member
fox in blankets?
They seem to go for most things in the bin but I haven't spotted them wearing blankets. Maybe it's not cold enough for that?
Watermelon Man
Member
Mate, sending you a virtual hug bro. You seem a bit down on yourself. I can give you a diet that has more carbs than you are currently eating and you'll be more energetic and feeling better about yourself than ever. Any time you need help my friend, give me a shout.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'll have some of that if you want to post it up. It'll be supplemented with the occasional steak but I'm interested to see what you've got.
Watermelon Man
Member
Just out of interest, what is it about the steak that you like best? Is it the taste or the feeling strong after it? The downside for me was the feeling clogged up for two days after.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
The taste. I cant recall ever feeling clogged up.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
How do you know how much protein I’m getting or what my needs are?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Most people need to overindulge a bit for that to happen.
AnnaKarpik
Queen of all she surveys
And then filtered out of the wine and beer.
I'm not sure of the vegetarian status of drinks that had bits of critter added then taken away. I'm pretty sure that flour would still be vegetarian if I sift out any meal moth eggs or weevils that might be in there.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Must be a right ballache finding water to drink.
Tbf I didn’t think it was completely filtered out.
For vegans it would be down to using the swim bladders for a human want for clear beer. I think most veggies wouldn’t be too keen, either.
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Watermelon Man
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Do you like curries?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Of course.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh but that's because of your emetick habit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's long been well known that guinness isn't vegetarian because of the use of fish parts in the brewing process.
although apparently it's soon to be vegan Soon to be made without any fish guts, Guinness is going vegan
not-bono-ever
meh
pretty sure I have been offered beer with lard in it. cannot recall where though
Watermelon Man
Member
OK. I'll give you a few options... Option 1 and you are pretty much hitting every single vitamin, mineral, fibre and amino acid requirement. It's 250g of carbs but you can add to that if you want more sweet potatoes..
Sweet potatoes baked 550g
Lentils - one small cup
Brocolli
Kale
Carrot
Put sweet potatoes in oven after pricking them etc for an hour.
Take the cup of lentils, add three cups of water. put in saucepan. Add a half teaspoon of turmeric, extra hot chilli powder, garam masala etc. Whatever works for you. I find extra hot chilli and turmeric is the best but sometimes like a garam masala on it's own. Bring to boil and leave to simmer for about 30 minutes.
Steam the veg for about 15 minutes, except for the kale - do that in just a few minutes.
Pour the curried lentils in the sweet potatoes.
If you are arsed about these sort of things.... That hits B1. B2, B3, B5, B6, folate, vit a, vit c, half of vit e, vit k, calcium, copper, iron, magnesium, manganese, phosphorus, potassium, zinc, (amino acids - cystine, histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, tyrosine and valine). It's only 6.2 grams of fat. The omega 3-6 ratio is 1 : 3 (which is great). The fibre is 48g - way over the recommended...
It's a hefty meal. You can add, take away to suit your appetite.
You could swap sweet potatoes with jacket spuds or rice to suit. Not as healthy but still tastes good and still carb heavy. You could also swap lentils with mung beans but they take a bit longer to cook. I prefer these two as they give a mushy texture. Piss easy to make. Tastes good and you'll feel great afterwards.
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