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Men’s violence against women and girls is a national emergency

Police or the CPS ? or even the briefs and the judge plea bargaining ...
Police. The female who was in charge of the case, from the newly-created domestic violence unit, said they'd made the decision because they were worried they wouldn't be able to prove attempted murder sufficiently. He'd not come to the house with the knife, it was in the cutlery drawer. His solicitor said that he'd taken the knife to kill himself with, which was absolute bollocks, cos he'd been ranting and raving, literally frothing at the mouth, then went in the kitchen and I heard the drawer go. It was 5 or 6 steps from that drawer to me. Quick fucking change of mind then wasn't it? They said he would plead guilty to the lesser charge therefore 'saving' me from giving evidence. I would have happily given evidence but it was presented as a fait accompli pretty much. I was still in hospital at the time the decision was made, it wouldn't have had a chance to get to CPS by that stage.
 
And then people wonder why there's no faith in the justice system for survivors of these crimes.

I know it was a while back sojourner I am just angry on your behalf (and on behalf of countless others) that this was the response to what happened.
I'm still angry about it myself. He totally got away with it. She only did it to get a nice easy first collar for that unit. I disagreed at the time but I was still in a bad way in hospital and she took advantage of that.
 
I'm still angry about it myself. He totally got away with it. She only did it to get a nice easy first collar for that unit. I disagreed at the time but I was still in a bad way in hospital and she took advantage of that.
and if they had pushed fothe attempt murder and he 'd been acquitted o that without differnt charges being laid ?

either you go through multiple trials or see the individual walk becasue they can;t be re-tried

 
and if they had pushed fothe attempt murder and he 'd been acquitted o that without differnt charges being laid ?

either you go through multiple trials or see the individual walk becasue they can;t be re-tried

What's your fucking point? That I should be happy about him getting off with a lesser charge?

I'd already told the police that he'd actually said to me he would kill me. We had witnesses saying that he wanted to kill me, before that night.
 
This is a campaign that got drowned out in the paedo Huw Edwards noise yesterday. I didn’t know that men who murder women inside their homes (ie they knew the victim) got around 10 years less jail time but I’m not surprised. I hope the new government honour the commitment the last one made to changing the law.

 




This video is doing the rounds on Facebook. It's a man interacting with TV clips on a large flat screen. He's obviously planned and rehearsed it. He hands a man on the screen a hanky and he blows his nose. He uses a cleaning rag to chase down a cartoon mouse. He gives a man an injection in his head and man rubs his head. He drops fluid into Billy Eilish's eyes and she weeps black tears.

He also pokes catwalk models in their leg and they trip as they walk. And he hits a woman in the face repeatedly as she shouts and recoils and shouts again.

It's presented as hilarious clever creative entertainment. There's no doubt that it's clever and creative. In my opinion it also demonstrates the normality of VAWG.

I stopped watching at the beating a woman bit so I don't know what follows.

He also touches a man on the back of his upper thigh in an (imo) intrusive way.

The way the man is sitting at home, watching a large screen and doing as he pleases to captive beings is almost like an installation art piece commenting on how screens encourage us
look at others as accessible and objectified.

Or maybe I'm overthinking it and it's just a clever creative funny video.

Comments are exactly what you'd expect: lots saying how great it is, some expressing concern about the violence, plenty of "oh get over yourself, don't like it don't watch" replies.
 
The queue of men who raped Gisèle Pelicot when she was drugged unconscious by her husband is so long, it stretches outside the courtroom

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It's very significant that the majority of these men were local.

I want men who say "not all men" to see this - this is one case where so many local men were participating in this atrocity.

There isn't something unusual in the water there. I guarantee they won't be "freaks" and "monsters" as other men like to reassure themselves that r**ists are.

So - men who say that, as well as others, don't be surprised when we say we don't feel safe. You can wave it away with "But I'm not like that and I don't know anyone who is." Women can't.

Gisèle Pelicot, 72, told the court that [...] four years ago [...] a French policeman had informed her that her apparently loving husband had, in fact, been drugging her for a decade and inviting strangers – more than 80 local men – to enter the family home, and the couple’s bedroom, to rape her while he filmed them.

(Bold mine.)

Source: French village of Mazan torn apart by horror of mass rape trial
 
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They do a lot here in Wales

Now a prominent campaigner, Ms Williams said her son is the reason she fights for education around domestic violence and coercion.

"I don't want to see another family go through what we went through.
"If I can educate the next Jack's and the next Rachel's then I'm going to do that."
Ms Williams said she believes domestic abuse and violence should be treated as a "national emergency".
"I think if the public accepted them as what they are, they're domestic terrorists, we'd see it as a bigger threat to life in society."

Ms Williams said she would tell her former self, stuck in an abusive marriage, that while "the road after leaving" would be tough, there would be hope.

"Life is precious but freedom is priceless."

Violence against women remains "shockingly high", according to a new report about what it is like being a woman in Wales.
The State of the Nation report from WEN Wales warns specialist support services are facing unprecedented pressures due to increased demand and a lack of funding.
 
This woman talks about what happened to her on a train and it's really horrible. I wondered about putting this is the football forum tbh.

I was sexually assaulted on a train after Spurs v Brentford while a dad and his sons laughed

Packed tube trains are a gift to men who are into non-consensual frottage imo. I jacked a job in because of it, I was heartily sick of it.

There's a lot to be said for the (re) introduction of women-only carriages imo, like they used to have on overground trains.
 
Well, that would be the ideal, but I can't see it happening in my lifetime. 😞
Yes. But the idea that women need to change their behaviour so men won't sexually assault them is just plain wrong and really pisses me off tbh. And would likely just shift this elsewhere anyway.

(And can you imagine the victim blaming if a woman didn't go into one of these carriages and was sexually assaulted?)
 
Yes. But the idea that women need to change their behaviour so men won't sexually assault them is just plain wrong and really pisses me off tbh. And would likely just shift this elsewhere anyway.

(And can you imagine the victim blaming if a woman didn't go into one of these carriages and was sexually assaulted?)
Yeah the idea of seperate sex carriages is the wrong way to go imo. What about ensuring that women cover up too so men don't get tempted? It's putting the onus on women rather than addressing the problem itself which is men.
 
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