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Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

Just think of it as an enrichment of the English vocabulary. If selfie can be added to the dictionary, then so can carnist.

What exactly is your "beef" with it, especially with you yourself have been fairly strident in your anti-vegan language.
except carnist isn't going to be added to the dictionary because no one on earth will be using it
 
Bizarre question.

It may or may not be true. It's a report from a newspaper.

I'm not interested in not buying it. I dont want to eat a vegan diet. I doubt I could afford a vegan diet (which isn't simply food either). I want to eat meat, but the responsibility for how farmers conduct their business is down to them.

Get rid of the profit motive and things change. Me not buying meat won't make a shit of differencce


What are you doing to end the profit motive then?
 
What are you doing to end the profit motive then?
i campaign for and advocate anti capitalist/socialist policies that I hope will at some point between now and the heat death of spacetime end capitalism.

But i have very little power.

I also dont want to destroy the meat industry, i want to see it improved. Vegans simply want it destroyed so oour goals do not align
 
I also dont want to destroy the meat industry, i want to see it improved. Vegans simply want it destroyed so oour goals do not align
right. so the meat industry, which only exists on the back of animals being forced into unnatural lives and helps fucks the planet through the distorted use of resources, should stay. i hope there is reincarnation and in your next life you come back as a battery chicken, the one after as a male chick, and the one after that as a cow. if you ever make it back to being human you might have a better appreciation of the meat industry.
 
Starve them of the oxygen they thrive on. mp has complained about the use of the word "carnist" and other perfectly reasonable and benign words/phrases as if they were grave insults, and all this while completely ignoring the genuine abuse coming in the other direction right off the bat from the likes of noxious and honeymonster. It would be hard to find anyone more disingenuous than him in this thread. The dude is a waste of space and can jump in the bin with his wasteman colleague scooby.

Again, this third-person referring to other posters is the kind of immature posing that's turned this thread into an intellectual and ethical toilet.

calling something out by using racism as a comparison
why so dishonest and fragile?
and abusive?

Prick, I'm using an example of disingenuousness to call out another example of disingenuousness. You thrive on the shit so no wonder you're confused.
 
i don't care to be the scapegoat, thanks for playing

A scapegoat by definition is someone who is not responsible for something. Are you therefore suggesting that you're, somehow, not responsible for the actions of a meat industry whose products you consume and whose activities you fund? If so, explain how and why you consider this to be the case.
 
too much carb for me

But we've already established you don't know what 'carb' means. It has been shown to you that your understanding of what 'carb' means is false. You have also demonstrated beyond doubt that you do not comprehend the role of carbohydrates in human metabolism and health, so you have no basis on which to state that anything has 'too much' of them.
 
But we've already established you don't know what 'carb' means. It has been shown to you that your understanding of what 'carb' means is false. You have also demonstrated beyond doubt that you do not comprehend the role of carbohydrates in human metabolism and health, so you have no basis on which to state that anything has 'too much' of them.
We haven't established that at all, nor have you provided any evidence as to why, if that were the case, I would need to know what carbs are in order for the LCHF to be a valid way of eating that has demonstrable benefits. You can try if you like.

All you have done is mumble something to the effect of "glucose is a carb" which is a stupid clumsy statement for the reasons I explained before you took your ball and stomped out the playground.

Still if you can point to valid science that debunks the low carb theory, be my guest. I'll happily present it to the communities I'm part of they eat shit like that for low carb breakfast. Off you go...
 
right. so the meat industry, which only exists on the back of animals being forced into unnatural lives and helps fucks the planet through the distorted use of resources, should stay. i hope there is reincarnation and in your next life you come back as a battery chicken, the one after as a male chick, and the one after that as a cow. if you ever make it back to being human you might have a better appreciation of the meat industry.
good luck with that
 
It seems pointless arguing about health benefits of diets, seeing as it's pretty easy to trawl the internet and find different studies pointing to positive and negative effects of all diets whether high carb, low carb, paleo or vegan or whatever. The only thing that seems clear is that a standard junk food / processed food heavy diet is bad for you whereas one made up of lots of whole foods is good.

Most people who are vegans, or mainly plant based, don't choose the diet for solely health reasons in any case.
 
It seems pointless arguing about health benefits of diets, seeing as it's pretty easy to trawl the internet and find different studies pointing to positive and negative effects of all diets whether high carb, low carb, paleo or vegan or whatever. The only thing that seems clear is that a standard junk food / processed food heavy diet is bad for you whereas one made up of lots of whole foods is good.

Most people who are vegans, or mainly plant based, don't choose the diet for solely health reasons in any case.
Of course.

However it's not really pointless, since we can examine peer review and look at actual evidence. Maybe not easy or fun to do, but to argue that because there are lots of apparently conflicting claims, interests or biases, doesn't mean it's not possible. Whether you want to is a matter for you
 
So what is the necessity of the term?

Let's see then .. ''Carnist'' .. a term laden with assumptions, then like ''Flesh-eater'', used with a scornful, derisive tone. Not self-adopted labels but imposed from outside. The necessity is that someone needs a little word magick to give them power, it's one of the main reasons words get invented and then ring-fenced.

It's transparent and pathetic. But annoying nonetheless.
 
And have a warning. Please look at the rules before continuing, Mr Wells.
Great warn me, do what you like. You're the mod. Doesn't mean I'm going to respect you while you ignore other people swearing in exactly the same fashion.

No idea who Mr Wells is. But if you want to assume everyone who disagrees with you that you can't cope with intellectually is a sock, be my guest.
 
Great warn me, do what you like. You're the mod. Doesn't mean I'm going to respect you while you ignore other people swearing in exactly the same fashion.

No idea who Mr Wells is. But if you want to assume everyone who disagrees with you that you can't cope with intellectually is a sock, be my guest.

If you're not Wells, I'll go vegan for a week!
 
Personal Attacks
I see you're desperate. Of course you weren't debating me, never thought you were. And your mocking leaves much to be desired, it's really shit.
feel free to tell your cunt of a mate, butchers, that the community in Bristol don't want nothing to do with him, they know who he is and they don't want bullies in their community.
 
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