Contact Tracing: Will You Self Isolate? (and related discussion)

[LDC]

So it is gong well then?

Fuck all. On that I imagine we can agree. But some of your criticism feels scattergun like and much of it ill-informed tbh.

 

[Badgers]

Fuck all. On that I imagine we can agree. But some of your criticism feels scattergun like and much of it ill-informed tbh.

Honestly?

You don't need to defend what you are doing to me. The blame lies solely with our disgraced government and their private donors.

Highest death toll per million on earth and some pathetic efforts and vague rules 3-4 months too late are worth nothing to the dead or their families.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I'll just chuck this into the mix; I posted it earlier today on another thread.

'BBC claims test and trace system open to large scale fraud. If it's true this could become a serious problem in terms of public confidence and compliance.

Here's a link to Radio 4's You and Yours programme (something I never thought I'd be posting on these boards); The government's system for test and trace leaves the door wide open to scammers, according to fraud experts. It is the first segment of the show.

It is the sort of thing that will scare the living daylights out of people like my mum who will want to do the right thing but will be terrified she's about to be ripped off. I'm pissed of with both the fraudsters and the government.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice '

 

[Badgers]

Wish I was contacting everyone Alok Sharma has been in contact with

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Has he tested pos yet then?

 

[Badgers]

Has he tested pos yet then?

Not sure if he can get a test?

 

[klang]

...

discussions on the three point turn should be in the -----> transport forum.

 

[Badgers]

Going well then...

Britain says nearly 30,000 COVID-19 tests sent to U.S. lab came back void

Nearly 30,000 COVID-19 tests which Britain sent to a U.S. lab for processing came back void, Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said on Thursday, adding to a mounting pile of questions over the UK's testing regime.

uk.mobile.reuters.com

 

[Badgers]

NHS Test and Trace faces legal challenge over privacy fears

The system has been reported to the Information Commissioner by campaigners

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Badgers]

September eh?

NHS test-and-trace system 'not fully operational until September' | NHS | The Guardian

<strong>Exclusive:</strong> chief operating officer told staff programme would be imperfect at launch

amp.theguardian.com

 

[existentialist]

September eh?

NHS test-and-trace system 'not fully operational until September' | NHS | The Guardian

<strong>Exclusive:</strong> chief operating officer told staff programme would be imperfect at launch

amp.theguardian.com

But which September?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

September eh?

NHS test-and-trace system 'not fully operational until September' | NHS | The Guardian

<strong>Exclusive:</strong> chief operating officer told staff programme would be imperfect at launch

amp.theguardian.com

It comes as a leaked email from the chief executive of Serco – one of the main companies contracted to deliver the service – revealed how he doubted the scheme would evolve smoothly but said he wanted it to “cement the position of the private sector” in the NHS supply chain.

Also their infographic is wrong though that doesn't surprise me.



The thing is that no it doesn't. It only does this if the other phone is already open and running the same app. (Probably.) They could have had it automatically contact other phones if they'd decided to go with the Apple/google system but they decided they didn't want to do that.

 

[Badgers]

Police forces are planning their own contact tracing system over concerns the government's test and trace scheme could place officers in danger

Coronavirus: Police planning their own contact tracing system over concerns about government's version

Forces fear entire stations could shut down and undercover officers could be placed in danger through the national system.

news.sky.com

 

[Spymaster]

There definitely are ways of tracking people on public transport where they're using Oyster cards or similar, just ad there are ways to track people using cards to pay in supermarkets, and if we were really serious about tracing potential contacts, that's the sort of thing we would be doing.

Eh? Payment or travel cards won’t work at all. They may in some cases be able to show if you’ve purchased something in the same store at broadly similar times but nothing regarding proximity to infected people. And what if people pay with cash?

 

[frogwoman]

Where do you download the app anyway?

 

[frogwoman]

I mean I would download it tbh. The government is tracking all our phones anyway and privacy has been dead for a long time. The main issue is if it worked or not surely?

 

[Badgers]

Where do you download the app anyway?

Track and Trace is not currently working with an app.
There is an app being piloted in the Isle of Wight but don't think you can download it yet.

Understanding of the T&T is that once someone tests positive they have to provide details of all people they have been in contact with.
Should be working 'properly' by September if the reports are to be believed.

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah I don't understand if that means it wont work at all before September or that it wont be 'perfect' till then (whatever that means)

 

[Badgers]

Going well then...

Tory MP attended lockdown barbecue with journalists | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Bob Seely was at gathering when guidance said you could only meet one other person

amp.theguardian.com

The Tory MP spearheading efforts to promote the Covid-19 contact-tracing app trial on the Isle of Wight appears to have broken lockdown rules at a barbecue also attended by the chairman of the Brexit party and political journalists, the Guardian has learned.

Bob Seely went to the evening gathering hosted by the Spectator magazine’s deputy editor, Freddy Gray, in the village of Seaview on the island last month. Richard Tice, the Brexit party chairman, and his partner, the political journalist Isabel Oakeshott, were also there.

 

[Badgers]

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Oh and the police don't want to do it because of, uh, data security issues.

Coronavirus: Police planning their own contact tracing system over concerns about government's version

Forces fear entire stations could shut down and undercover officers could be placed in danger through the national system.

news.sky.com

 

[Badgers]

Oh and the police don't want to do it because of, uh, data security issues.

Coronavirus: Police planning their own contact tracing system over concerns about government's version

Forces fear entire stations could shut down and undercover officers could be placed in danger through the national system.

news.sky.com

Yeah. I posted up thread.

Guess they have more to (hide) be concerned about than Joe Public but still

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Definitely, care home worker. I could infect every person I came into contact with at work and half of those would probably die. You non isolating cunts better mask the fuck up in shops then and stay well away from me

 

[Badgers]

Definitely, care home worker. I could infect every person I came into contact with at work and half of those would probably die. You non isolating cunts better mask the fuck up in shops then and stay well away from me

Have been wearing a mask since this shit started and will continue to as already mentioned.

As for being a 'non-isolating cunt' you can jog on you hero. If this was a good system that would help people we would happily take part. But it is not. Which you would know if you bothered to read up.

 

[Brainaddict]

Thought this deserved a thread of its own. Many countries have already got in place test-and-trace systems. We've known we will need it since the beginning, it's really absolutely important for saving lives and ending lockdown properly, yet here we are easing lockdown and we don't have a functioning system. It seems the government put it out to their usual friends, allies, donors and future employers, with the ever-incompetent Serco top of the list, but a load of other companies too. Their incentive will not be to hire the expertise they need (or buy the tech they need), as it would be for the public sector, but to do everything as cheaply as possible. I therefore predict that what is already a clusterfuck will continue to fail to work. This is a thread to document the failures and deaths caused by a careless, negligent government and care-even-less companies. A guardian piece here:

NHS test-and-trace system 'not fully operational until September'

Exclusive: chief operating officer told staff programme would be imperfect at launch

www.theguardian.com

Not fully operational till September? Oh, no hurry, it's only people's lives.

 

[Badgers]

There is a thread on this

Contact Tracing: Will You Self Isolate? (and related discussion)

The government tracing team are going to contact people who have been in contact with C19+ folk and tell them to self isolate for 14 days even if they have no symptoms. Matt Hand Cock says that most paople will. So, you get a call from someone saying that you've been exposed (apparently they...

www.urban75.net

I was going to add that link to the already damning list of (more) failures

 

[editor]

There is a thread on this

Contact Tracing: Will You Self Isolate? (and related discussion)

The government tracing team are going to contact people who have been in contact with C19+ folk and tell them to self isolate for 14 days even if they have no symptoms. Matt Hand Cock says that most paople will. So, you get a call from someone saying that you've been exposed (apparently they...

www.urban75.net

I was going to add that link to the already damning list of (more) failures

I'll merge and see if I can add something to the title

 

[Badgers]

I'll merge and see if I can add something to the title

 

[Badgers]

Rumours and threats: what happened when Covid-19 shut our pubs | Coronavirus | The Guardian

When a customer in a Somerset town tested positive, two local venues found themselves in the eye of a storm

amp.theguardian.com

News of his positive result reached the co-owner of Vape Escape, Leanne Underhill, first. Underhill, 40, closed the bar straightaway. She made a series of desperate calls to Somerset County Council and the police before finally getting through to NHS Test and Trace. “They asked me what I had done and took my postcode – that was it. They didn’t take any other details,” she says, sitting at a table in her recently deep-cleaned bar. “We were essentially left to deal with it ourselves.”

 

[Teaboy]

Bizarre.