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No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
ha ha, just another one of those mental images i like to picture when arguing with you.
Ohhhhh you're such a class act.
ha ha, just another one of those mental images i like to picture when arguing with you.
Yes because calling people on benefits "scroungers" is a really new thing that newspapers never engaged in until the government benefits clampdowns.
Ohhhhh you're such a class act.
well not with such intensity. Notice they've slackened off on it now they all got their own way
And of course you can prove both these statements...
yes i can. Try to claim a crisis loan, then come back and tell me you managed it.
Yeah, I wouldn't even qualify, so why. No I mean, show me that the media blitz on benefits was worse than ever before.
And crisis loans thats your entire point?
as you don't qualify you won't know how bad it is. If the COUNCIL were as awkward and bureaucratic concerning bins as the DWP are with the most vulnerable in society, the media would be screaming blue murder, but hey ho, it's only those scruffs that live on council estates, so why care...
dwyer said:But in these debates I'm seeing more and more anti- conspiracy nuts, or "conspiracy denialists."
People who, perhaps in reaction to the more outlandish conspiracy theories, simply refuse to believe that powerful people ever get together to plan sinister actions in secret. Which is about as naive as you can possibly get.
Both extremes are mistaken. But the conspiracy denialists are far more dangerous and harmful, for they encourage and actively foster a blind faith in what our rulers choose to tell us.
brilliant post. I think i'll cut and paste it every time the terminally naive argue with me on here.
It's a brilliant example of dwyer's continuing pseudo-campaign against conspiracy-sceptics, yes, but it would be somewhat more convincing if he actually believed any of it.
It's a brilliant example of dwyer's continuing pseudo-campaign against conspiracy-sceptics, yes, but it would be somewhat more convincing if he actually believed any of it.
Which he doesn't, not a word.
He's only adopted the anti-conspiracy-sceptic faux-'stance' that he has, as a deliberately 'contrarian' shitstir, and for no other reason. He's only repeating this 'anti-conspiracists blindly back up the establishment' rubbish for the same reason.
FWIW I agree with what free spirit (and elbows) posted a few pages back about the build up to the Iraq war and with what kyser said about why the mainstream media so often (but not in every instance) echo ruling class/establishment themes.
I'm also very much an anti-conspiracist, but the above paragraph hardly makes me someone who's 'actively fostering a blind faith in what our rulers tell us' as per dwyer's lie quoted above ...
Fair enough. It's no secret that I think dwyer's full of shit though.
We'll have to agree to disagree then.
If most people on Urban were putting forward conspiracy theories and defending them, he'd choose to attack them, just for maximum shit stirring and lulz purposes.
In any case, the suggestion that anti-conspiracists are 'actively fostering blind faith in what we're told' is just nonsense, not in any way logical. Even if he did mean it, which he doesn't.
Its those who have a go about perfectly plausable theories.
William if you were to take up an alter ego (WOW alt) on an Internet bulletin board defending conspiracy theories against doubters (such as WOW original) how would you go about it?
That's just another way of describing what dwyer's doing, which is what you're getting at isn't it?
Not one single poster has agreed with your bonkers claims over Diana, not even dwyer, plausible my arse.
at least 3 on this thread alone
and half the UK population in a Poll a few weeks after it happened.
Are half the Uk mental or is it YOU?
Jazzz, Dwyer, and... fela? taffy?
Not exactly the urban MENSA chapter now is it?
In the weeks after that attack during that week of national insanity yes, half the UK population are mental.
at least 3 on this thread alone and half the UK population in a Poll a few weeks after it happened.
Are half the Uk mental or is it YOU?
Heh. That's exactly what it is. In fact that's the major problem the conspiracy denialists on these boards face.
I don't agree with everything Jazzz says, but he's quite obviously a highly intelligent, highly educated man. All other things being equal, I'll take his opinion over that of a dullard such as yourself every time.
There's your problem, right there.