brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Not everyone does; that's the point.
And in a time of lockdown they'll be others that might, in other circs , have been able to access support.
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And in a time of lockdown they'll be others that might, in other circs , have been able to access support.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The trouble is that the planning for 'digital assistance' for the 'digitally excluded' was, obviously, undertaken pre-pandemic when inviting old /vulnerable people into centres where they could be helped probably looked like a nice idea.
In a lockdown that 'assistance' is going to take the form of doorstep, socially distanced digital inputting.
In a lockdown that 'assistance' is going to take the form of doorstep, socially distanced digital inputting.
Acanthus said:
I disagree. For me, that earlier post from Acanthus had some interesting content about the Mayor of Stroud's position that I'd never heard about before.
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Starry Wisdom
Won't be long before acanthus leaves gets coat
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
VG
But on a semi-serious note; you can hardly blame them if they did decide to withdraw from the thread when greeted with a 'reply' like this:
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Starry Wisdom
I'm surprised anyone sticks around here tbhVG
But on a semi-serious note; you can hardly blame them if they did decide to withdraw from the thread when greeted with a 'reply' like this:
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Certainly been a great deal of personalised abuse thrown around.
Shame; I thought it would be an interesting topic for discussion.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Yes the greens led a campaign last time. This time ten years ago it had already been running for four years. They don’t seem to be doing so this year, probably because they have just about enough honesty to recognise when something had completely and utterly failed.
yes, you called me a "goon".Certainly been a great deal of personalised abuse thrown around.
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Starry Wisdom
Depends whether he means you as Neddy Seagoon or Eccles
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Not directly, but nonetheless I apologise for any offence caused.
It was wrong of me to categorise all of the ONS staff recruited by Adecco as "goons"; I have subsequently learned that it is only as subset of the field staff that will be specially trained to conduct formal interviews under caution.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Interesting that you ascribe the failure of the thread to the one instance of "offence" you attribute to the OPer.
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"part of the reason".
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
No doubt the thread will move on as more Urbs get the paperwork through the door.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
BTW rutabowa I've just remembered that besides that morning's 2 hour 'training' I got where they were just basically panicking about the logistics I did get 2 days in a fancy seaside hotel as well. Cannot remember a single thing we did there, apart from the breakfast and evening meal, but I'm sure we did something. Are you getting the 2 day hotel gig? And aren't you meant to be on training this morning?
I'm nearly there!
Most of the training is online, this is just half an hour to check docs and pick up stuff
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
?? This is page 12, there has clearly been a fair amount of discussion. Yet another complaint with no basis in reality.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Are you going to be one of the door-to door fieldworkers?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Just a reminder to anyone else considering non-compliance with this census that to avoid the CPS being able to mount a case against you, it is important not to divulge any details when the 'specially trained' units come knocking on your door after March 21st. Best option is obviously not to answer the door to them, but if you do happen to be confronted...stay quiet. If they don't know who you are they can't prosecute.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The 2011 experience of councillor Marjoram should act as a warning to anyone answering the door to the specially trained Addeco compliance units:
Yes
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
She got a summons because she publicly announced she was refusing to comply and was willing to be fined. She acted as part of a campaign which hoped to make a difference (although it didn’t). Fair play to her, I have complete respect for those making such a stand. Her answering the door will almost definitely have been entirely irrelevant to the prosecution.
Plus, after Christmas?? I doubt adecco will employ anyone for ten months
Plus, after Christmas?? I doubt adecco will employ anyone for ten months
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
The fine is £1000.00 IIRC.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I see.
Are you able to confirm what I've read on the ONS site that:
a) door-to-door fieldwork will take place following the actual census day date of March 21st
b) fieldworkers will input household data (socially distanced) at the doorstep if the householder has not been able to return an online or written form?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Maximum.
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yeh but the thing we want to know is did this interruption fuck his lunch?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
No, I think you're quite wrong about that.
The CPS would not proceed on the basis of reported statements in the media; the ONS make quite clear that successful prosecutions result from direct evidence of wilful non-compliance collected by "specially trained field staff" conducting formal interviews under caution as determined by PACE:
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
As a reassurance to anyone else considering non-compliance, the chances of prosecution are vanishingly remote.
Of the 1.6M missing households in 2011, only 12,000 received follow-up household visits from the "specially trained" units, (0.75%), and only 157 of those cases proceeded to court, (0.0098%), leading to 120 convictions, (0.0075%).
Roughly a 1 in 13,000 chance of prosecution.
Of the 1.6M missing households in 2011, only 12,000 received follow-up household visits from the "specially trained" units, (0.75%), and only 157 of those cases proceeded to court, (0.0098%), leading to 120 convictions, (0.0075%).
Roughly a 1 in 13,000 chance of prosecution.
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