Ayia Napa gang rape case - verdict and discussion

[Proper Tidy]

This whole story is grim.

BBC News - Briton guilty over Ayia Napa false rape claim
Briton guilty over Ayia Napa false rape claim

Obviously I'm not in possession of full facts, but on surface this looks like awful treatment of a young woman, pressured by police to withdraw allegation because she had willingly had sex with one or two (not twelve) of the men and then prosecuted.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Should have been thrown out based on her treatment at the police station if nothing else.

Sounds like the judge decided what happened before the case was heard. No evidence pertaining to the alleged rape was allowed to be heard.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Slightly bigger piece here - British woman found guilty of lying that she was gang raped in Ayia Napa

Marie Adler springs to mind.

 

[Manter]

Yeah, read a bit about that. Not a pleasant case. The cheering crowds and chanting about sluts when the alleged attackers got home was particularly repulsive

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm sure the Foreign Office will weigh in swiftly and effectively to rectify this abomination.

 

[Dogsauce]

Not sure it’s great that I’m getting breaking news alerts from BBC about this and it being their second biggest story today. Going to feed into the ‘evidence’ for those pricks who defend famous rapists because ‘women lie’ and those who play down rape accusations, in turn making it harder for people to have the strength to come forward after being attacked. This shit is poisonous and costs lives. Rapists should be the ones being shamed on telly, not the vanishingly rare cases of those prosecuted for making false claims.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Despicable of the Cypriot courts, police etc. Really upsetting case.

 

[Athos]

Absolute disgrace. Shame on thre Cypriot legal system.

 

[Threshers_Flail]

I've just read about this and it's very upsetting, that poor girl. From what I've read it's a massive miscarriage of justice, fuck those 12 men and fuck the Cypriot police. The family have set up a fundraiser, please donate if you can.

Click here to support Help Teen Victim Get Justice In Cyprus organized by John Hobbs

 

[purenarcotic]

This poor woman, and her poor family having to try and pick up the pieces.

 

[Spymaster]

The family really haven’t been helped by the press either who have insisted on publishing scores of photographs of the girl with her face covered but her parents completely identifiable.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

I think it's also interesting how this case in Greece, and the one about the family that drowned trying to save each other in Spain, help to feed into a general "police in foreign countries are likely to fuck you over" narrative, which bolsters anti-EU/anti-foreigner sentiment.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I think it's also interesting how this case in Greece, and the one about the family that drowned trying to save each other in Spain, help to feed into a general "police in foreign countries are likely to fuck you over" narrative, which bolsters anti-EU/anti-foreigner sentiment.

Bit of a stretch I feel.

 

[Athos]

I think it's also interesting how this case in Greece, and the one about the family that drowned trying to save each other in Spain, help to feed into a general "police in foreign countries are likely to fuck you over" narrative, which bolsters anti-EU/anti-foreigner sentiment.

Police in foreign countries are likely to fuck you over. Just like at home, if you're working class.

 

[Spymaster]

I think it's also interesting how this case in Greece, and the one about the family that drowned trying to save each other in Spain, help to feed into a general "police in foreign countries are likely to fuck you over" narrative, which bolsters anti-EU/anti-foreigner sentiment.

It does, but you can't attribute it to anything wilful. The other side of that coin is the British tendency to assume that our citizens have been hard done by 'uncivilised' foreign judicial stystems (see any number of cases involving westerners smuggling drugs in Middle/Far East etc).

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The family really haven’t been helped by the press either who have insisted on publishing scores of photographs of the girl with her face covered but her parents completely identifiable.

The UK press can identify her if they wish. The crowd funded piece is written by a bloke with a name who talks of ‘our daughter’, so that could also be a giveaway.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

It does, but you can't attribute it to anything wilful. The other side of that coin is the British tendency to assume that our citizens have been hard done by 'uncivilised' foreign judicial stystems (see any number of cases involving westerners smuggling drugs in Middle/Far East etc).

Plus are own judicial system is not exactly great at getting rape convictions.

It's an awful case, poor girl

 

[kabbes]

I just donated to the fund and am gratified to see in doing so that it has grown by about £500 in 20 minutes.

 

[isvicthere?]

I'm sure the Foreign Office will weigh in swiftly and effectively to rectify this abomination.

Just like they did in Iran when Bozo the clown was foreign secretary.

 

[Dogsauce]

It does, but you can't attribute it to anything wilful. The other side of that coin is the British tendency to assume that our citizens have been hard done by 'uncivilised' foreign judicial stystems (see any number of cases involving westerners smuggling drugs in Middle/Far East etc).

I think it’s the same side of the coin tbh. See also the Madeleine McCann nonsense.

 

[emanymton]

The UK press can identify her if they wish. The crowd funded piece is written by a bloke with a name who talks of ‘our daughter’, so that could also be a giveaway.

This crowdfund will be administered without charge by a UK lawyer, John Hobbs, who will allocate the fund as required

He is not her father just publishing their statement.

 

[Spymaster]

I think it’s the same side of the coin tbh. See also the Madeleine McCann nonsense.

The Madeleine McCann nonsense was entirely different. That was just a product of the indecorous mawkishness that we excel at in the UK. See also Diana Princess of Wales.

 

[Lancman]

Government says has full confidence in judiciary and courts (updated) - Cyprus Mail
No mention of confidence in the police.

 

[kabbes]

They’ve made funds incredibly quickly. In 24 hours, they’ve smashed past their £80k target from £73k, set a new target of £105k and now reached almost £97k. I guess people really think this whole thing is fucked up.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The family says they've heard nothing from the foreign office.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

The family says they've heard nothing from the foreign office.

could somebody there be investing in a EU citizenship?

 

[tim]

I think it's also interesting how this case in Greece, and the one about the family that drowned trying to save each other in Spain, help to feed into a general "police in foreign countries are likely to fuck you over" narrative, which bolsters anti-EU/anti-foreigner sentiment.

Neither of these case would have been treated in the way they have in the UK, so why shouldn't the systems be challenged.

The Cypriot case is mired in mysogyny; and pool that the family drowned in was reopened within 24 hours.

To be honest never be surprised by the willingness of police in any country to fuck people over.

 

[likesfish]

Cypriot police make the met look highly professional

 

[kenny g]

Cypriot police make the met look highly professional

Probably essex plod on retirement duties.

 

[kenny g]

Club La Costa are well worth full internet research. In any case, whatever the regs say any commercial swimming pool deserves a life guard. People can die in water in minutes.