Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Did she say that?
She did. It's in Tip #7 in "How to look good at a protest" that butchers posted.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
To touch on a point a couple of people raised a bit back in the thread, of course there's a risk the thread could be accused of taking everything that comes rushing from her Thoughtless Red Marker Pen of Justice and taking it apart, but what she's putting out into the world as an overall "body of work" is that she can neither escape nor even wants to escape what she is.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The more I find out about Penny Red the more I think she is not half as interesting as the fictional character with her name that has been created on this thread. The article about 'how to look good on a protest' is just a piece of light-hearted hack writing and I don't think she is being serious. It is also a few years old. I have found some YouTube extracts of her speaking and she says nothing enlightening or even mildly interesting. If she can get newspapers to pay for her writing currently while she has a minor fame, then good luck to her. It won't last long because there is no substance to her commentary.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
*bangs head on screen*
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
*bangs Hocus Eye's head on screen*
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Hmm. I must admit I was inclined to go easy on her too - now that I'm middle-aged I've got a bit indulgent about young people striking poses and I agree things like the 'looking good on a protest' piece are obviously meant to be a joke so getting aerated about them is daft.
But I'm glad this thread exists, because the 'fictional character with her name' is the one that I bought into when I read maybe 2 of her pieces in the New Statesman and thought, she's ok, she's sound, she's a lefty and I try not to get into slagging off people on the left, even if I don't agree with everything they are saying. The reality is that she isn't a lefty, she's a desperate narcissistic poseur and liar whose primary goal is her own personal and professional advancement. "Radical" politics is just another means of furthering her career. And even for an old cynic like myself it is gobsmacking how serious journalistic entities like the Independent and the NS have bought into her fantasy self and made her a figurehead for a movement and so on.It is shockingly bad judgement and not good for her ego problem either.
She needs to go and get a proper job for 5 years somewhere, live out of the limelight and do some growing up. But she obviously won't, she'll just be a shouty professional controverseur and we'll all have to listen to her opinions for decades and be told she's speaking for us*. Christ what a country.
*until she switches horses of course
'switches horses.'
That'll happen eventually. And I'm a young cynic.
That'll happen eventually. And I'm a young cynic.
love detective
there's no love too small
will be even more excruciating when she goes through the period of trying to ride two horses at once 
love detective
there's no love too small
although i guess she's already trying to ride two different horses, imagine the introduction of a third horse - that would be two horses going in different directions and then another horse that she's been on since the start just galloping around aimlessly trying to get noticed and avoiding being made into dog food
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I can see where you are coming from
SpineyNorman
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All this stuff about horse riding is clearly thinly veiled misogyny, trying to imply she's a prostitute or something. And anyway, neither St. Laurie nor her savage red crayon of justice would even consider horse riding - it's cruel to animals and clearly symbolic of patriarchy.
brown felt-tip pen of bullshit.
Nice one
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or she could become the new patti smith
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
This is it - she's got more in common with some semi-intellectual X Factor contestant than anything else, the desperation to be in the limelight. And her blustering bullshit when she was pwned by Starkey was more reminiscent of the Bob Diamond/Rupert Murdoch School of Modern British Public Life ; just deny deny deny, doesn't matter what crap you come out with, just stay on the front foot, throw counter-accusations, never admit a thing. Primary school playground.
The absence of any moral skeleton or moral compass or any inner life at all is stunning. As a human being, she is damaged goods.
In a few years she'll still be writing a column or two, and now and again saying how embarrassed she is when looking back at her 'radical' phase.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Think it's interesting how obsessed some people are with her on here. Does it really matter whether she changes her political outlet in ten years...who doesn't evolve their thinking over time??
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I generally treat Penny the same as I do Delingpole: I ignore her. That's the best policy. 
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Some people? Like people with 80 posts on the thread?
JHE
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I generally treat Penny the same as I do Delingpole: I ignore her. That's the best policy.
They're both gutted.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Which is probably what I should do with you.
love detective
there's no love too small
she's already told us how her privileged position in life makes her a more committed leftist than the rest of us - so surely we'd expect a bit more consistency, and erm..commitment from one so unfeasibly committed
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
will be even more excruciating when she goes through the period of trying to ride two horses at once
So, ppc for a safe Labour seat in, say, 10 years?
JHE
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Do you mean ignore me or gut me?
It's alright, the referee stops it before the KO.
What I want to know is how Starkey and Penny managed to get each other's accents.
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