You get an ear for it, but lipreading helps as the consonants don't change.
Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Well then if you've already decided you can't trust her word why both analyzing every single one she utters? Once you got someone sussed does anyone really need to continue document every single action?
It's not like LP is actually influential in any real shape or form...
The39thStep
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Dunno about that Julie Birchall still manages to sound 'radical' despite her apoliticalness without denouncing herself.
No she will probably try and stay in letters/the media probably adapting to more mainstream views but ones that can be presented as radical in some way
No it ain't. It's very good judgment indeed.
rekil
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No she'll blame the normals for being too thick and cowardly to orbit her star properly.
Look at the painting.
Look at it.
(no doubt soon to be seen as a supersized cardboard promo cut-out in a bristol bookshop near you)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Well stop whinging about her then.
love detective
there's no love too small
because as has been pointed out previously, while this thread is nominally about her, it's more about what she represents, the increasingly emerging phenomena of people like her
as to not being influential, i would dispute that, she's corrosively influential in a number of ways and as such threads like this are fair game in my opinion
she puts herself into play through her own ego & desire for self publicity, using collective/progressive politics as cover for her own valorisation
and more generally, none of us here trust capitalism's 'word' and generally have it 'sussed' - does that mean that we shouldn't continue to analyse & understand it, in order to be in a better position to fight it?
Julie Burchill is a genuine radical.
Maybe in her head. Otherwise, new jokes thread ------------------------------------------>
No, you're wrong about this. Burchill's one of the top ten journos of the C20th. She really is what Laurie Penny used to think she might be one day.
I can tell you are holding a newspaper in front of your face to hide the grin.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
don't confuse angry/ irritating/mildly amusing with being radical like I have done
One of the top ten journos, maybe. Radical now? Not convinced. She wrote as if she was when that was fashionable. Tbf I haven't seen any if her more recent material. *goes off and googles*
He isn't, he's playing devil's advocate.
Please tell me you made this bit up: "of the women I spoke to who had found a workable solution to the sharing of domestic work in their household, 90% employed some sort of home help, from a weekly cleaner to a live in au-pair..."
Don't bother, the recent stuff is crap. I'm talking about when she was 17-18 years old, slagging off the likes of Dylan and the Stones in the NME and always hitting the nail exactly on the head. That took serious courage (and/or an awful lot of amphetamine sulphate) and remains some of the best writing I've read by anyone ever.
rekil
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I didn't believe it either. But look...googlebooks.
Too late, I've just found her recent bits (readable yes, radical no) on the DM site - where's the decontamination shower?
A has been in other words, she's 52 now. Although better than being a never was. FWIW I didn't get my hands on the NME at that time. It's not exactly the sort of thing an 11 year old would read, even if they could afford it.
I was reading it at 11.
Try The Boy Looked at Johnny. Completely mad, which is presumably why it's out of print, but stirring stuff. At least when you're 11.
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pretty on the inside?
Jesus. Just skimmed through it. Horrid stuff. The ending: 'Most of all, we refuse to be beautiful and good." Basically everything that's wrong with her type of thinking encapsulated. Notices that what is called beautiful and good is not so. But response is not to seek out what is truly beautiful and good, but rather to attack the very concepts of beauty and goodness. Makes me sick.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
I've never rated Burchill either, if I'm honest. If she ever had any particular talent then she lost it long ago and has to resort to that 'I'm a professional contrarian, I try to provoke aggro for the sake of it, I'm still here, look at me, look at me, please validate my existence and make me feel I still matter in some way to anybody' approach that most readers nowadays tend to spot pretty quickly and treat for what it is.
Thanks for the tip. Still available on Abe. It'll have to wait though. The library's shut until Monday and my payment card's more or less maxed out until Tuesday.
Oh man, been reading her stuff on Amazon now. I once thought a whole thread about her was a bit much, but I can see why you lot are so obsessed.
"How many times have you heard a man refer to taking care of his own children as "babysitting?"'
Huh? What else is it then? I call it "babysitting" all the time, in fact I'm babysitting at this very moment (it's nap-time). What's wrong with calling it "babysitting?" Just what is wrong with it? What are we supposed to call it then?
And then this: 'the most brain-bleedingly pointless domestic tasks have, for some young women today, become so alien and fantastic that they are now a lifestyle option."
Bloody hell.
"How many times have you heard a man refer to taking care of his own children as "babysitting?"'
Huh? What else is it then? I call it "babysitting" all the time, in fact I'm babysitting at this very moment (it's nap-time). What's wrong with calling it "babysitting?" Just what is wrong with it? What are we supposed to call it then?
And then this: 'the most brain-bleedingly pointless domestic tasks have, for some young women today, become so alien and fantastic that they are now a lifestyle option."
Bloody hell.
She should also get herself a better hairstyle with a natural looking colour. Make the most of herself while she's still young.
And start calling herself Laura again-it's nicer. Who the fuck's called Laurie anyway? Has anybody ever met a Laurie?
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