Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[smokedout]

94. Showcase your feminist pride! (If you’re comfortable)

Wear t-shirts, sport wristbands, or put cool bumper stickers on your car. Make noise! There are many different ways to do so. As a man, you’re bound to draw attention and possibly rally support with your feminist gear

if you're lucky you might even get laid

(is what he means)

 

[frogwoman]

It's all a bit patronising too. Look how many LBGTQQRSTFLMNOP friends I have! How thankful they must be for me helping them out in this way.

i don't know about you but whenever someone talks in this sort of way with me i generally feel quite uncomfortable and it's a few steps away from viewing people as all being oppressed and deserving of pity to viewing them in other stereotypical ways as well

 

[smokedout]

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

 

[frogwoman]

I like Johnny and Sally because they NEVER flaunt their wealth in front of me. In fact, they go to great lengths to keep their valuables as well as their wallets and purses as far away from me as possible. How cool is THAT???

 

[DotCommunist]

it's a fucking minefield especially if there's only one path, do you stay a sinister lurking distance behind, or attempt to overtake, thereby increasing the fear, but only temporarily until you get a safe distance in front

you have no idea what us allies go through

Whats not on, regardless of race, gender or anything, is to casually walk two feet behind someone on a deserted night street. Even if the person in front of you is a brick shithouse built to municipal proportions and is clearly three sheets.

They can hear you. The scenarios are flashing through their head. Cross the damn road. That goes double if its a woman. Just courtesy. No need to shit someone up, give them that itch between the shoulder blades of 'oh fuck'. Have some manners

 

[DaveCinzano]

you have no idea what us allies go through

Yalta, Tehran, Casablanca - and don't get me started on Bretton Woods.

 

[frogwoman]

Yalta, Tehran, Casablanca - and don't get me started on Bretton Woods.

 

[Greebo]

<snip>Does "non feminist literature" include things like Chronicles of Gor? I do hope not

Chronicles of Gor barely qualifies as reading material, let alone literature.

 

[frogwoman]

Chronicles of Gor barely qualifies as reading material, let alone literature.

but if you're so devoted to feminism why woudl you "chill out" by reading literature that was consciously "non-feminist"? it's like being an anti-fascist and then chilling out by reading some enid blyton?

why would you do it?

 

[Greebo]

but if you're so devoted to feminism why woudl you "chill out" by reading literature that was consciously "non-feminist"?<snip>

I suppose it's on a par with going vegetarian for political/pulling reasons but sneaking the odd bacon sarnie because you just don't enjoy much of the vegetarian food you've tasted so far.

 

[J Ed]

I suppose it's on a par with going vegetarian for political/pulling reasons but sneaking the odd bacon sarnie because you just don't enjoy much of the vegetarian food you've tasted so far.

lol I had a friend that did this (well sort of, his gf refused to date meat eaters) but he ended up veggie in the end

 

[DotCommunist]

not to mention transgression enjoyment

or even something so simple as reading tightly plotted trash cos you like it. For anyone who has read David Gemmel you know exactly what I mean. Characters called 'Bane the Bastard' who happen to be the wronged son of a clan chief and a man trained in the use of two swords in the fighting pits of the evil empire, who was bought from your wicked uncle by slavers but has fought to freedom etc etc

And that cunt with the repeating crossbow, Gemmel got three books out of him and I still can't remember his name. It was all about the plot/action

 

[Bakunin]

reading tightly plotted trash cos you like it.

Ahem, good sir. I will defend my collections of Frederick Forsyth to the last bullet even if he is a bit right-wing.

 

[BigTom]

thats what I think, but some people might prefer drawn out low level fear to a quick adrenalin rush of terror, how are you supposed to tell

I reckon that as you are approaching them, you should shout loudly DON'T WORRY I'M A FEMINIST ALLY , I'M NOT A RAPIST, MURDERER OR MUGGER. That should set their mind at rest, knowing you are an ally and that.

 

[Ole]

Whats not on, regardless of race, gender or anything, is to casually walk two feet behind someone on a deserted night street. Even if the person in front of you is a brick shithouse built to municipal proportions and is clearly three sheets.

They can hear you. The scenarios are flashing through their head. Cross the damn road. That goes double if its a woman. Just courtesy. No need to shit someone up, give them that itch between the shoulder blades of 'oh fuck'. Have some manners

I'm not gonna cross the rasclaat road whenever someone is in front of me at night but that doesn't mean I don't have manners. Same rules whatever the time, either keep an appropriate distance or overtake. What sort of absolute weirdo walks two feet behind someone for any noticeable length of time, whatever the time of day?

 

[smokedout]

I reckon that as you are approaching them, you should shout loudly DON'T WORRY I'M A FEMINIST ALLY , I'M NOT A RAPIST, MURDERER OR MUGGER. That should set their mind at rest, knowing you are an ally and that.

FEMINIST ALLY COMING THROUGH ... would you like to see my posters in my feminist bedroom

 

[weepiper]

FEMINIST ALLY COMING THROUGH ... would you like to see my posters in my feminist bedroom

wanna see some etchings of Virginia Woolf?

 

[frogwoman]

One day me and my mate Paula were coming back from a night out. As we approached Paulas house (where i might have been living at the time, cant remember when i moved in) we heard a noise like a cat. We turned around and it was a guy, we heard his voice across the street "DON'T WORRY! I'M NOT A RAPIST!" we both started running like fuck, and bolted up the hill to where paulas house was.

I'm now thinking that we had no reason to be scared and this guy was only trying to be a feminist ally.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm not gonna cross the rasclaat road whenever someone is in front of me at night but that doesn't mean I don't have manners. Same rules whatever the time, either keep an appropriate distance or overtake. What sort of absolute weirdo walks two feet behind someone for any noticeable length of time, whatever the time of day?

people in a crowded fast moving street

 

[smokedout]

I'm now thinking that we had no reason to be scared and this guy was only trying to be a feminist ally.

if he wasn't wearing a feminist ally armband you were right not to trust him

 

[smokedout]

anyway I'm not a feminist ally, I'm a fucking feminist, ally is like Stalin to Churchill, a mutually beneficial allegiance for a specific gain

 

[Ole]

people in a crowded fast moving street

So only when completely involuntarily? OK.

 

[toggle]

Ahem, good sir. I will defend my collections of Frederick Forsyth to the last bullet even if he is a bit right-wing.

Don't worry, no one looking at your book collection will notice anything other than the 95% of it or so that is about serial killers and the several large and brightly coloured mental health self help books


your secret will be completely safe from everyone who is running very fast back to town

 

[Bakunin]

Don't worry, no one looking at your book collection will notice anything other than the 95% of it or so that is about serial killers and the several large and brightly coloured mental health self help books


your secret will be completely safe from everyone who is running very fast back to town

 

[toggle]

best offer I've had in.........


erm, perhaps i should actually just speak to the bloke sitting 5 feet away from me

 

[DotCommunist]

not to mention transgression enjoyment

or even something so simple as reading tightly plotted trash cos you like it. For anyone who has read David Gemmel you know exactly what I mean. Characters called 'Bane the Bastard' who happen to be the wronged son of a clan chief and a man trained in the use of two swords in the fighting pits of the evil empire, who was bought from your wicked uncle by slavers but has fought to freedom etc etc

And that cunt with the repeating crossbow, Gemmel got three books out of him and I still can't remember his name. It was all about the plot/action

Waylander!

thats the bloke with the repeating cossbow and the moniker straight out of the 80s. Waylander, a man wronged, a man of mystery. All we know is his preternatural skill at arms and his repeating crossbow. Together with a ragged priest he will bring peace to a wounded land.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Ahem, good sir. I will defend my collections of Frederick Forsyth to the last bullet even if he is a bit right-wing.

Forsyth is no Ludlum but he is a good thriller writer

 

[DaveCinzano]

Forsyth is no Ludlum but he is a good thriller writer

The Day Of The Jackal was a rollicking read, but I found his others something of a downward spiral. Too much showing off about how he could obtain fake passports/smuggle weapons/exfiltrate Nazis etc. Dogs Of War was 90% boring detail about dodgy export certificates!

 

[barney_pig]

The Day Of The Jackal was a rollicking read, but I found his others something of a downward spiral. Too much showing off about how he could obtain fake passports/smuggle weapons/exfiltrate Nazis etc. Dogs Of War was 90% boring detail about dodgy export certificates!

It's all a bit; ' aren't I edgy for knowing all this stuff, must mean I know the type of people who do this for real'
Like Sean beans character in Ronin

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's all a bit; ' aren't I edgy for knowing all this stuff, must mean I know the type of people who do this for real'
Like Sean beans character in Ronin

LOVELY BIT O' RASPBERRY JAM BACK THERE!

*BOKE*

PS So what colour is the Boat Shed at 'Heerfud'?