Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[J Ed]

How should I go about this crying in public business? Should I stand in a shopping centre and think about a movie with a dog dying in loyal service to its owner?

 

[TruXta]

How should I go about this crying in public business? Should I stand in a shopping centre and think about a movie with a dog dying in loyal service to its owner?

Ask some swappies?

 

[frogwoman]

Was just about to post that. You left off one of the most ridiculous (and telling):

A position in activism?

this doesn't even make sense.

 

[butchersapron]

How should I go about this crying in public business? Should I stand in a shopping centre and think about a movie with a dog dying in loyal service to its owner?

That needs a trigger warning. Afternoon ruined now.

 

[butchersapron]

A position in activism?

this doesn't even make sense.

Have you never been interviewed for a salaried position in activism?

 

[frogwoman]

21. Read websites like Feministing, Colorlines, Jezebel, etc. for your news sources.

Check out these sites DAILY! All of them have great news stories from a feminist perspective and will help you in your journey towards becoming a better ally. What’s great about these sites is that they always have links to other great websites.

and that's what you should do to be a great ally?

 

[frogwoman]

Have you never been interviewed for a salaried position in activism?

I've been a trot and had some articles published in the paper. Does that count?

 

[butchersapron]

Did you do an internship though?

 

[frogwoman]

Did you do an internship though?

I did work unpaid for a publishing company for about two months once. i ended up in hundreds of pounds worth of debt.

i didn't do an internship in trottery tho no.

 

[DotCommunist]

LGBTQQIAA

fuck man, theres more letters and I have fallen behind again

 

[Bakunin]

fuck man, theres more letters and I have fallen behind again

Nine letters. Could be a nice little earner if I self-published the 'Bumper Book of Activist Sudoku.'

 

[JHE]

LGBTQQIAA

Someone must have made this up to take the piss

 

[frogwoman]

 

[DotCommunist]

think the I is intersex. It was just LGBT for ages, then the Q for queer has been added as the word has been sort of reclaimed like. No idea on the others tbf.

 

[TruXta]

think the I is intersex. It was just LGBT for ages, then the Q for queer has been added as the word has been sort of reclaimed like. No idea on the others tbf.

The A's are (I think) Asexual and Androgynous.

 

[JHE]

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual and Ally

...apparently

 

[frogwoman]

wtf? an ally is just a straight person that doesn't have a problem with or wants to "help" LGBT etc people aren't they?

 

[love detective]

maybe they mean this ally

 

[Limerick Red]

maybe they mean this ally

I think this calls for a frogwoman intersectional analysis of the Zombies FC.

 

[Sue]

maybe they mean this ally

He's looking a bit lardy these days.

 

[Sue]

Hmm, for some reason can't post up a picture of the other great footballing Ally.

 

[el-ahrairah]

i think all those types of people are human and deserve fair consideration and rights and all that stuff. does this mean i have to be an ally, or can i just be not a prick?

 

[J Ed]

I can't believe I missed this

http://michaelurbina.com/101-everyday-ways-for-men-to-be-allies-to-women/

9. Walk on the other side of the street when a woman is walking towards you at night.

I make every effort when I’m out at night to pose myself as a non-threatening person in order to make women feel more comfortable. Some ways that I do so include making sure my hands are always visible as I’m passing a woman, looking downward or away from the woman I’m passing by, or just completely crossing the street so the woman coming towards me doesn’t feel threatened in any way by my presence. I do what I can as a conscious male. It’s also important to recognize that I am Latino. Sadly, men of color are more likely to be profiled as dangerous than white men. I began this practice knowing that I will be seen as more dangerous and threatening.

When and where was this written? Antebellum South Carolina?

 

[TruXta]

I can't believe I missed this

http://michaelurbina.com/101-everyday-ways-for-men-to-be-allies-to-women/



When and where was this written? Antebellum South Carolina?

I don't see what's so odd about that.

 

[frogwoman]

I can't believe I missed this

http://michaelurbina.com/101-everyday-ways-for-men-to-be-allies-to-women/



When and where was this written? Antebellum South Carolina?

what the fuck?

Self-hating crap.

to be fair, i do feel threatened by that sort of thing at night and fair enough if you're doing that but it's the way he's saying "I'm latino..." like that's something he can help.

 

[rekil]

I can't believe I missed this

That bit is correct.

 

[frogwoman]

90% of this is just obvious "don't be a dick" stuff.

 

[frogwoman]

27. Support non-profit organizations and pro-feminist groups.

• Subscribe to email lists, participate in forums, seek internships, or become a part of non-profit organizations. There are plenty of ways to get involved!

28. Journal daily and reflect on your behaviors, thoughts, ideas, etc.

• We all need self-reflection time. I’ve found journaling about my experiences and journey to be extremely helpful in keeping me motivated and connected to the broader movement.

 

[TruXta]

what the fuck?

Self-hating crap.

to be fair, i do feel threatened by that sort of thing at night and fair enough if you're doing that but it's the way he's saying "I'm latino..." like that's something he can help.

I read it as "I'm Latino, men of colour are more likely to be seen as dangerous". I don't see your point really.

 

[frogwoman]

56. Think about issues and your own life from an intersectional lens.

• Expanding on #52… We all have different experiences as men. We come from different backgrounds; therefore, we must take all of our identities into account when examining specific issues. For example, being a Latino, heterosexual male, I’m most definitely going to have a different opinion than a White, homosexual male on same-sex marriage. Rather than simply looking at issues as a male, it’s important that we all consider our complete background. This will give us the opportunity to acknowledge all voices and backgrounds and have a real dialogue around issues.

why would that be a given?