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Yes but I didn't call you one. So then who is lying now? :)
OK she called you racist. OK you deny it. Who do I beleve? The one who throws bitter insultas around and swears at me? I don't think so. :)
that seems that you're saying that SN denied he is a racist, after being accused of being one by Laurie. and that you believe his accuser's accusation, not him.
i'm really not sure how it could be interpreted differently. enlighten me Remzi x
 
Maybe, but i asked you 'What else looks made up?'. Come on, you have to help yourself here.

OK I'll tell you. When I see something like this thread, so angry and furious for so many pages, and never giving credit to the one attackes, always hating, always raging, I always think that somone has a secret motive for it. Sorry but that's wehat life taught me.

For an example I gave you Harris obsession with young girls. Many here claim it, but the only evidence shown was about when he was 15 himself - a perfectly normal emoption. Now is there more evidence or not?
 
OK I'll tell you. When I see something like this thread, so angry and furious for so many pages, and never giving credit to the one attackes, always hating, always raging, I always think that somone has a secret motive for it. Sorry but that's wehat life taught me.

For an example I gave you Harris obsession with young girls. Many here claim it, but the only evidence shown was about when he was 15 himself - a perfectly normal emoption. Now is there more evidence or not?

have you read the thread you daft twat?
 
Honestly, the whole thread looks absolutly odd. 800 pages???? Of attacks on one person???? There's usually something odd happening. :hmm:


But the thread isn't that. If you read it you will see what it is really about, which is a big and by turns thought provoking, heartfelt, dumb, funny, dull and incisive discussion, much more centrally concerned with questions of class and representation (in at least two senses) than with individuals or publications.

If your willing to work a bit harder at it you could really get something out of it; if not you'll be dissatisfied and probably laughed at and insulted for you laziness.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
For an example I gave you Harris obsession with young girls. Many here claim it, but the only evidence shown was about when he was 15 himself - a perfectly normal emoption. Now is there more evidence or not?


The thread has a search function that could use to avoid seeming quite so stupid
 
OK I'll tell you. When I see something like this thread, so angry and furious for so many pages, and never giving credit to the one attackes, always hating, always raging, I always think that somone has a secret motive for it. Sorry but that's wehat life taught me.

For an example I gave you Harris obsession with young girls. Many here claim it, but the only evidence shown was about when he was 15 himself - a perfectly normal emoption. Now is there more evidence or not?

Did i ask you What else looks made up? I did didn't i? Not what do you think motivates the posts, but what is made up? Can you do that? If not, then why did you say it? Why accuse people of making things up if you don't have anything to point to? Not evidence that what they say is wrong, but even of them saying anything wrong.

I'm not being funny but i think you're missing a lot of what is going on here and that this may be due to english not being your first language - is that right?
 
Fuck off - the implication in this post is clear as day:

Well maybe so, if you want it. What esle is clear as day? That you have no manners nor any control over your language. Maybe if you could stop insulting you would not be doubted. But like this? Sorry no dice.
 
Well maybe so, if you want it. What esle is clear as day? That you have no manners nor any control over your language. Maybe if you could stop insulting you would not be doubted. But like this? Sorry no dice.
are you going to respond to my unsweary comment, remzi?
 
OK she called you racist. OK you deny it. Who do I beleve? The one who throws bitter insultas around and swears at me? I don't think so. :)

So are you now accepting that LP called SN a racist? Because that is how the above reads. It also looks as though accepting that LP did make the accusation you are saying you believe it to be true; is that also right?

If it is, that is very odd since LP has since retracted; perhaps you would like to do the same and apologise?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
OK I'll tell you. When I see something like this thread, so angry and furious for so many pages, and never giving credit to the one attackes, always hating, always raging, I always think that somone has a secret motive for it. Sorry but that's wehat life taught me.

For an example I gave you Harris obsession with young girls. Many here claim it, but the only evidence shown was about when he was 15 himself - a perfectly normal emoption. Now is there more evidence or not?

The evidence is all here on this thread - read it or STFU.

And if you think nobody has given her credit for anything maybe you should take a look at the posts I quoted here, relating to her excellent piece on rape.

You obviously haven't got a clue what you're on about. I suggest you apologise for your ignorant and offensive comments (especially those implying that posters here are liars and racists) and stop digging. And if you want to criticise the thread in general you should read it.
 
Well maybe so, if you want it. What esle is clear as day? That you have no manners nor any control over your language. Maybe if you could stop insulting you would not be doubted. But like this? Sorry no dice.

I have perfect control over my manners and language thanks very much. I don't really care whether you believe me or not either (it's not about believing or disbelieving - there's simply no debate over it, the evidence is all there if you care to look - LP openly retracted the accusations, this isn't a matter of opinion - it's a matter of fact. The accusations were completely without foundation).

You call me a liar over what was, for me, a very stressful experience (I can't think of many worse things to be called than a racist - rapist or paedo maybe but that's about it) and can't even be bothered to look deep enough to find that even my accuser doesn't actually believe it.

And then you expect me to be polite?

Ok then - I'm sorry to be a pain old chap but please would you fuck off and die if it's not too much trouble. Thanks awfully.

I think it says a lot about Laurie Penny and her defenders that this is the best they can do though.
 
The thread has a search function that could use to avoid seeming quite so stupid

Ok I just seaqrched for 'Harris.' 11 pages of the most awful insults, calling him paedophile etc. Sorry but I found NO EVİDENCE AT ALL for it. Yes he writes about sex and porn in a very liberal tone and maybe its not tasteful, but I found NOTHİNG to support the worst charge you could make.

So if I missed it, just please post it and I'll cetainly apologıze. But if its not there you must admit its shameful.
 
OK I'll tell you. When I see something like this thread, so angry and furious for so many pages, and never giving credit to the one attackes, always hating, always raging, I always think that somone has a secret motive for it. Sorry but that's wehat life taught me.

For an example I gave you Harris obsession with young girls. Many here claim it, but the only evidence shown was about when he was 15 himself - a perfectly normal emoption. Now is there more evidence or not?

This is an especially idiotic post. Starts off my claiming it's all against one person (lauriepenny) but then offers criticisms of Malcolm Harris as evidence of, well, I'm not sure what. Clearly demonstrating that this thread isn't about one person.

You're really not very good at this at all you know.
 
Ok I just seaqrched for 'Harris.' 11 pages of the most awful insults, calling him paedophile etc. Sorry but I found NO EVİDENCE AT ALL for it. Yes he writes about sex and porn in a very liberal tone and maybe its not tasteful, but I found NOTHİNG to support the worst charge you could make.

So if I missed it, just please post it and I'll cetainly apologıze. But if its not there you must admit its shameful.

Why the sudden swap to Turkish keyboard "i" in the middle of a sentence? :hmm:
 
always hating, always raging,

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Ok I just seaqrched for 'Harris.' 11 pages of the most awful insults, calling him paedophile etc. Sorry but I found NO EVİDENCE AT ALL for it. Yes he writes about sex and porn in a very liberal tone and maybe its not tasteful, but I found NOTHİNG to support the worst charge you could make.

So if I missed it, just please post it and I'll cetainly apologıze. But if its not there you must admit its shameful.

Like you accusing me of being a liar and a racist then.

Read the thread and then comment.
 
<snip>You're really not very good at this at all you know.

They're trying.

Maybe if you answered their question about any hard evidence to back up what Harris is believed to have done, Remzi might raise their game.
 
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