Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[ViolentPanda]

Sorry to say so but tghose who are happy in themselves do not speak as you do.

I hate to disillusion you, but "human nature" (to use a ridiculous expression to encapsulate human social interaction and psychology) is such that people who are "happy in themselves" are absolutely capable of speaking in such a way. "Human nature" is contradictory, dichotomous or "worse". Self-contradiction is part of everyday life, as is hypocrisy and "little white lies".

 

[equationgirl]

Serously? Come on.



Thats just ONE, and it got 8 likes so far! Real madness.

And are you aware of the context around that post? Are you aware of the writings of Malcolm Harris and how he has a rather unhealthy obsession with young women, especially those who might not have reached the age of consent?

 

[Firky]

What crime has he comitted please? Must be some dreadful attack if he deserves such vicious words.

Go familiarise yourself with his writing and some of the stuff he comes out with. The obsession of puberty, sex, porn, young women and general seediness.

 

[andysays]

could you link me to the post so I can make sure I liked it myself?

Nah, you didn't "like" it Delroy Booth and neither did I (despite apparently being the bitterest one here ).

We're obviously a right couple of softies who need to up our game in the hater stakes if we want to cut it in U75...

 

[SpineyNorman]

Serously? Come on.



Thats just ONE, and it got 8 likes so far! Real madness.

That's not even about Laurie Penny. And it is indeed just one. As in not more than one. As in not plural. It's also not a threat - a threat goes like this: 'I'm going to find you and kick you in the teeth Malcolm Harris.' That one's just someone saying what they'd quite like to do.

I'd like to kill the entire Tory/Lib Dem cabinet with a cheesegrater. But even members of that cabinet would be sensible enough to realise that this is not a threat.

0/10 - must try harder.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Sorry to say so but tghose who are happy in themselves do not speak as you do.

Alright fucking Freud, could you show your working out on that one please?

 

[Remzi]

And are you aware of the context around that post? Are you aware of the writings of Malcolm Harris and how he has a rather unhealthy obsession with young women, especially those who might not have reached the age of consent?

Yes I know him and NI magazine (read them not personally).

Do you mean the quote about lust for his schoolfellow girls when he was 15? If that is what you mean I see nothing wrong - do you? Or is there anything worse?

 

[Bakunin]

Her post on this htead (the ones I read) are very far superior to yours. She was kind and gentle while receving only spite and hate in return.

How kind and gentle is it to smear people as racists, sexists, misogynists and rape apologist?

Come to think of it, how kind and gentle was her dealing with the chap who threatened suicide? I seem to recall her using him for a story even after mental health advisors had explicitly advised against doing exactly that? While we're on that subject, how is that unfortunate individual doing these days in terms of their well-being after becoming byline fodder for a self-appointed 'voice of a generation' who, strangely for the 'voice of a generation', is largely rejected by political activists across the milieu for whom she claims to speak and be a part thereof?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Go familiarise yourself with his writing and some of the stuff he comes out with. The obsession of puberty, sex, porn, young women and general seediness.

It's pretty obvious the Remzi has no intention of doing anything as coarse as acquainting themselves with the context of anything they're sounding off about.

Now who does that remind me of?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Her post on this htead (the ones I read) are very far superior to yours. She was kind and gentle while receving only spite and hate in return.

Yeah - especially the part where she told tens of thousands of people I was a racist for no reason whatsoever, leading to real world problems for me and my family (including my black ex-partner and her mixed race children) and only retracted the statement when she was threatened with legal action.

That part was especially kind and gentle and I can see why you wouldn't understand why I didn't just bend down and kiss her feet afterwards.

You fucking mug.

 

[Bakunin]

It's pretty obvious the Remzi has no intention of doing anything as coarse as acquainting themselves with the context of anything they're sounding off about.

Now who does that remind me of?

'Hi. I'm the voice of a generation. But you can all call me Remzi...'

 

[grit]

Of course it's subjective. However, it's also informed by long-standing participation in this thread, and a reading (and occasional re-reading) of it, not by drawing inferences through reading a handful of the latest pages.

You stoned already?

Which makes it .... wait for it..... an opinion!

 

[equationgirl]

Yes I know him and NI magazine (read them not personally).

Do you mean the quote about lust for his schoolfellow girls when he was 15? If that is what you mean I see nothing wrong - do you? Or is there anything worse?

I mean his more recent articles, which if you read them you would see what he is writing. His writings are not about when he was 15.

 

[equationgirl]

Which makes it .... wait for it..... an opinion!

grit, just fuck off if you're on this thread solely to have a go at VP.

 

[grit]

grit, just fuck off if you're on this thread solely to have a go at VP.

Nope, pointing out the complete break downs in someone's logic and reasoning is not "having a go".

Having a go is calling him a bitter old cunt. (just for reference like)

 

[Remzi]

Alright fucking Freud, could you show your working out on that one please?

Happy people are not angry. Even when anger is just (as it is NOT here) it bring unhappiness.

 

[equationgirl]

Nope, pointing out the complete break downs in someone's logic and reasoning is not "having a go".

Having a go is calling him a bitter old cunt. (just for reference like)

Well you're clearly not here to participate in the subject of the thread, so fuck off anyway.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Happy people are not angry. Even when anger is just (as it is NOT here) it bring unhappiness.

That's, like, really profound maaaan!

Can I have your thoughts on this now please Jacques?

Yeah - especially the part where she told tens of thousands of people I was a racist for no reason whatsoever, leading to real world problems for me and my family (including my black ex-partner and her mixed race children) and only retracted the statement when she was threatened with legal action.

That part was especially kind and gentle and I can see why you wouldn't understand why I didn't just bend down and kiss her feet afterwards.

You fucking mug.

 

[grit]

Well you're clearly not here to participate in the subject of the thread, so fuck off anyway.

Thats exactly what illustrating someones faulty argument is... taking part in the thread.

Or is it just too inconvenient, this threads sole purpose is for the usual suspects to sit around slapping each other on the back and calling each other comrade?

 

[Firky]

Happy people are not angry. Even when anger is just (as it is NOT here) it bring unhappiness.

What a load of fucking shit. Did you read that in a Christmas cracker?

 

[Remzi]

I mean his more recent articles, which if you read them you would see what he is writing. His writings are not about when he was 15.

OK. I haven't seen such and I can't imagine them but if that's true then OK.

Now I'm going before I beome the new Penny or Hrris here. What madness.

 

[tufty79]

Happy people are not angry. Even when anger is just (as it is NOT here) it bring unhappiness.

or healing. which is a bit of a nicer result.
i'm pretty happy with the bits of my life that i chose tbh - is that good enough for you?

 

[tufty79]

Thats exactly what illustrating someones faulty argument is... taking part in the thread.

Or is it just too inconvenient, this threads sole purpose is for the usual suspects to sit around slapping each other on the back and calling each other comrade?

anyone calls me that, i will hurt them with my teeth.

 

[Firky]

OK. I haven't seen such and I can't imagine them but if that's true then OK.

But you claim to read them.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Which makes it .... wait for it..... an opinion!

You may have noted that I used the term "mere opinion" for Remzi's posts (based on, by their own admission, reading a handful of pages), so as to differentiate it from the "informed opinion" of people who've read the thread.
Or, more likely, you didn't notice, because you were too busy trying to throw a decent punch.

 

[frogwoman]

People don't like Malcolm Harris because he's a hipster twat who appears to be in the same temporary autonomous zone as Hakim Bey and Gary Glitter

 

[grit]

You may have noted that I used the term "mere opinion" for Remzi's posts

Oh you can be sure that I noticed that! Thats what made it so fucking hilarious, you were attempting to suggest that your "mere opinion" was better than Remzi's "mere opinion".

This is gold, keep it coming.

 

[equationgirl]

People don't like Malcolm Harris because he's a hipster twat who appears to be in the same temporary autonomous zone as Hakim Bey and Gary Glitter

And his writing is crap.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Happy people are not angry. Even when anger is just (as it is NOT here) it bring unhappiness.

Please do me a favour and take a basic psychology class, in order to move beyond the frankly ridiculous (and intellectually unsustainable) set of beliefs you have about emotions.

 

[Firky]

And his writing is crap.

And his £5,000 fees to talk for half an hour.