I certainiy wish I had not. I'll move on to another one.
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I certainiy wish I had not. I'll move on to another one.
Steel Icarus
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That didn't answer the question. Given that aside from liking one of Jazzz's posts and posting on here this is all you've done on urban...why this one? Do you even know who Laurie Penny is?
Why is it within 48 hours of Laurie showing her face, her sycophantic followers register? They'll not even bother to read the fucking thread.
I wouldn't bother with them. They'll sharp fuck off back to twitter and in depth political conversation composed of 120 characters.
I wouldn't bother with them. They'll sharp fuck off back to twitter and in depth political conversation composed of 120 characters.
You must mean the bit where Laurie Penny baselessly libels everyone on the thread as rape apologists?
She has form for this too, having in the past had to publicly apologise to one of the posters after baselessly accusing him (a long term anti-racism campaigner) of being a racist.
andysays
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I saw it. Great film. Samurai classic.
Steel Icarus
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So what compelled you to register here and find this thread and give us all a good ticking off?
OK, I don't know about this. But I am very suprised to read so much vile hatred anyway.
are you referring to any shameful fury in particular, duck? x
You need to read the entire thread if you want to understand the last few pages.
Steel Icarus
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Actually you are the only one who has thought about what they wrote afterwards, and I think you felt sorry for what you said before.
Some others though display a very bad side of themselves here.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Probably run a mile if faced one-on-one with a woman.
It'd certainly go some way to explaining his much-expressed perving on pubescent and barely post-pubescent females.
andysays
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I'm sure those unnamed others would be happy to discuss this with you if you'd care to name them and be specific about what you're accusing them of doing. I know that I stand by every word I wrote in my exchange with Laurie, although she unfortunately chose not to address a single one of the points I was making - must have had a deadline looming for her latest column...
andysays
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Sudden interest in South Eastern European politics...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
He's saying "you're mealy-mouthed".
Personally, I'd have prefered him to have been saying "you're a vapid Fabian dick", but you can't always have what you want.
SpineyNorman
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I can't begin to think how you thought anything good could come of making that post articul8. You have a habit of putting your foot in your mouth on this stuff - comments about certain people's appearances making it difficult for you to get to the vinegar strokes spring to mind. Don't you think that sometimes it's best to either think about how what you say might be interpreted and attempt to pre-empt that by working out how people might respond, how you might respond to that and so on in order to clarify your thoughts and make sure you're not seen as a cunt or just not say anything?
(I don't think you're a rape apologist or anything of the sort fwiw but I don't think you always think this stuff through and take into account the wider implications of what you say - I think instead you start off with a position and then rationalise it after the fact, which leads you to taking all kinds of odd positions that I don't think you really subscribe to. It's the same with your discourse obsession - you claim to still be a materialist who accepts the centrality of class but when your views or subject to scrutiny you end up making idealist post-modernist arguments because you have to in order to rationalise whatever discourse related comments you've made)
(I don't think you're a rape apologist or anything of the sort fwiw but I don't think you always think this stuff through and take into account the wider implications of what you say - I think instead you start off with a position and then rationalise it after the fact, which leads you to taking all kinds of odd positions that I don't think you really subscribe to. It's the same with your discourse obsession - you claim to still be a materialist who accepts the centrality of class but when your views or subject to scrutiny you end up making idealist post-modernist arguments because you have to in order to rationalise whatever discourse related comments you've made)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Why would people wish to be her?
We're all of us the sum of our own experiences, why would we wish to be someone who often (mis)-represents the working class experience for her own journalistic ends, when she represents the working class experience at all in her writing beyond vague condescension?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Which means you're drawing a conclusion that isn't contextually-based, but rather based on your opinion of what you've read in the last few pages.
Can you see how that renders your claims about "envy" and jealousy hollow?
Rhetorical question, by the way. I doubt you can see.
Violent threats, bitter name-calling, blaming her for everything in the world... just the most bitter hatred. Sorry but I can't imagibne how a columnist could cause such strange anger, unless it was ENVY.
SpineyNorman
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I've not read it, no. Not because I don't want to but because it's not available online or in any of the libraries I have access to and I can't afford to be buying every book anyone mentions to me so have to save what book money I do have for stuff that I really need for my studies. But I have read commentaries on it from the likes of Ellen Meiksins-Wood (cheers for pointing me her way frogwoman and butchersapron - great author!). It seems that just like you they claim, on the surface, not to abandon class politics but when their arguments are scrutinised they're painted into the same post-everything corner as you.
Not 'opinion.' I can read well enough to see what's happening here. Tall poppy gets chopped down.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
SpineyNorman
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It wasn't funny when it was done 600 pages ago and it's not funny now.
But that won't stop me nicking it and passing it off as my own sometime in the future teehee
Mine was better than that one though
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