Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[love detective]

Yeah Herr Vogt had to be dealt with!

 

[butchersapron]

Marx, Staines has more irons in the fire than that - the old going to jail soon fraud.

Are you talking about Marx or Staines now?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

At what age did she start university then? (Just concentrating on that aspect for now got my suspicions about the other).

She started in 2004 not sure how old she is...

 

[frogwoman]

she was born in 1986 iirc

 

[Brixton Hatter]

did she back down before or after the news that the video is due to be published shortly?

she said "violent thug starkey" had "attacked" her - and while she didn't actually allege physical violence, she seemed quite happy for that impression to develop. Starkey is a cunt though. (And so is Guido Fawkes.)

 

[love detective]

to be fair those who have seen the video are saying that there was a very aggressive manner in which she was confronted

 

[butchersapron]

Why say violent? Why not aggressive.

 

[butchersapron]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
@MrHarryCole oh, you mean the naked underage pictures you had of me from university? stay classy.

such a fibber

On this, he claims she posted them on facebook. That they didn't publish them at all and she threatened to sue them. That should be provable one way or the other surely?

 

[rekil]

There's a collection of his Daily Worker pieces on Span called Cockburn in Spain that is absolutely hilariously tragic. The most feted pack of lies i've ever read.

Ah yeah, I checked Preston's buke last night and it has a fair bit more than two lines on Cockburn. He made up a story about Koltsov having a direct phone line to Stalin, and fabricated a revolt at Tetuoan.

 

[love detective]

she was born in 1986 iirc

quite a big gap in age terms then between her and these 'school age sisters' of her - if she's around 26 then that makes it close to a ten year difference between her and her sister(s)

 

[DaveCinzano]

Ah yeah, I checked Preston's buke last night and it has a fair bit more than two lines on Cockburn. He made up a story about Koltsov having a direct phone line to Stalin, and fabricated a revolt at Tetuoan.

Cut the guy a break, his relative privilege made him a more committed leftist.

 

[butchersapron]

Here's penny in 2002.

She was the top candidate among nearly 925,000 entries in the AQA Examination Board English group of GCSE subjects, and the Brighton College student has now been invited to a special ceremony in London in November.


Laura, 15, is thrilled at the results. 'It's just unbelievable. I didn't realise I was going to do that well. I was so nervous the night before.'

Laura hopes to go to Oxford and is interested in the possibility of a career as a writer.

 

[butchersapron]

Smartest kid in a smart school.

 

[butchersapron]

Here's penny in 2002.

August 2002: "Laura hopes to go to Oxford and is interested in the possibility of a career as a writer."

May 2012: "

For instance, in 2003, I was informed by a teacher that I would be applying to Oxford. I was the smartest kid in a smart school which needed to boost its Oxbridge figures: there was no question."​

 

[love detective]

good spot - never knew she had a made up second name

 

[LLETSA]

Politics reduced to showbiz in the media-directed age.

Politics as Strictly Come Dancing without Bruce Forsyth. And the dancing.

 

[frogwoman]

Here's penny in 2002.

is that actually her?

 

[butchersapron]

Course it is.

 

[agricola]

is that actually her?

I think it has to be, otherwise there would have been a smarter girl in her year - the consequences of which would of course be earth-shattering.

 

[rekil]

Burtsevapron.

 

[butchersapron]

Burtsevapron.

None shall escape.

 

[Idris2002]

Burtsevapron.

None shall escape.

Sorry?

 

[butchersapron]

Deeper - the Headmaster of Brighton College in that article bigging up Laura is Anthony Seldon. Now headmaster of Wellington College where Penny did her paid talk with Starkey over the weekend. Keep it in the family don't they? (hat tip to frogwoman here)

 

[butchersapron]

Sorry?

Vladimir Burtsev

 

[love detective]

seems like it's true about her demanding a fee for the fund raising event

As the dust settles after Saturday's fracas between David Starkey and Laurie Penny, a source familiar with the situation explains to Mr Steerpike the history between these two scribes:

'David and Ms Penny were supposed to be debating at a fundraising event for the Thomas Paine Society about a week ago. Penny was in the US and had demanded a fee (which David did not: he only charges corporate engagements fees and does a huge amount pro bono). Such was her request that the event was cancelled — they couldn't afford her. So David mentioned this in response to the tax avoidance jibe and ended up saying, "I came up from the bottom and won't be lectured at by a jumped up public school girl like you, I will not have it."'​

Coincidently Laurie attended Brighton College, home of master tutor Antony Seldon before he moved to Wellington, where Saturday's event was being hosted… That did not stop her attacking the school. Penny did not deny she had asked for a fee.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/blogs/steerpike/2012/june/ms-pennys-fees

 

[rekil]

Deeper - the Headmaster of Brighton College in that article in Anthony Seldon. Now headmaster of Wellington College where Penny did her paid talk with Starkey over the weekend. Keep it on the family don't they? (hat tip to frogwoman here)

And another.

Just met a brilliant former English teacher of mine who now works at Wellington, haven't seen him in ten years. Morning instantly memorable.

 

[butchersapron]

Jaws snapped shut.

 

[love detective]

And

Tired of all this. It's an exhausting way to live and not conducive to writing. Not going to jump to decisions, but something has to change

What happened to all that additional commitment to leftyism that flows from ones privileged upbringing - only lasted about an hour

 

[Idris2002]

Vladimir Burtsev

Ah, I see the connection now (via wiki). Sorry for not being as cool as everyone else round here.

 

[butchersapron]

Ah, I see the connection now (via wiki). Sorry for not being as cool as everyone else round here.

The blue suede shoes of the revolution.