Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[butchersapron]

Notable, every journo mentioned in these last few posts - every single one - went to private school.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Vidal is just a journalist reporting on his beat for liberals. Never saw him as an organic part of any movement at all

He tried his best! Always looking for an 'in'.

 

[temper_tantrum]

Can we have a 'good journalists' thread, to identify people who are acceptable?

 

[rekil]

Can we have a 'good journalists' thread, to identify people who are acceptable?

Everyone at Workers' Girder.

 

[Random]

Can we have a 'good journalists' thread, to identify people who are acceptable?

The most important thing is to give up the idea that you need to find the right journalists, and then you can believe what they say.

But some journalists who're doing something important are exiledonline writers, who're publishing profiles of known media figures and exposing their corporate links http://shameproject.com/ Since journalists are often insiders in the world of PR, lobbying and the rest of these elite networks, it's good to see them working on exposing bought journalists, although I don't share their illusions that it's possible to simply clean up journalism.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Everyone at Workers' Girder.

They're not journalists, they're worker-delegates.

 

[Random]

They're not journalists, they're worker-delegates.

Consciousness-raiser Commisars

 

[rekil]

They're not journalists, they're worker-delegates.

Just testing. Stay on your toes comrades.

 

[Random]

She's now arguing with Guido Fawkes, saying that he made threats against her little sister, and that she's too scared to say what the threats are, in case he carries them out. Guido's just said she's a trustafarian, btw, and she's not denied living off an inheritance

 

[DaveCinzano]

She's now arguing with Guido Fawkes, saying that he made threats against her little sister, and that she's too scared to say what the threats are, in case he carries them out. Guido's just said she's a trustafarian, btw, and she's not denied living off an inheritance

Well that saves me the hassle of finding out what the second hand farts on my tweetline were about.

 

[mk12]

When do we think she'll give up her lefty credentials and embrace all that she currently despises? 2020?

 

[frogwoman]

She's now arguing with Guido Fawkes, saying that he made threats against her little sister, and that she's too scared to say what the threats are, in case he carries them out. Guido's just said she's a trustafarian, btw, and she's not denied living off an inheritance

to be fair, guido fawkes is a cock.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

to be fair, guido fawkes is a cock.

Absolutely, and if he has made threats against her or her sister I hope he carries them out gets done.

However going on her past form I find it hard to believe that he has.

 

[love detective]

and so is she (a cock that is)

she's bleating on now about how some people can't comprehend that her privilege actually helps make her a 'more committed leftist' (the implication of this being that those without her privilege don't have the potential to be as committed as her?)

so there it is, leftyism for her is grounded completely in detached morality plays, benevolence and charity work, not class struggle out of collective/individual self interest

 

[butchersapron]

Given that she just had to back down from suggesting that the man-beast starkey attacked her on stage just how vile do you imagine these threats are?

 

[love detective]

did she back down before or after the news that the video is due to be published shortly?

 

[Random]

did she back down before or after the news that the video is due to be published shortly?

Just after ppl who were also there started tweeting

 

[butchersapron]

did she back down before or after the news that the video is due to be published shortly?

After

 

[love detective]

I'm glad Marx never had access to twitter

 

[frogwoman]

she's bleating on now about how some people can't comprehend that her privilege actually helps make her a 'more committed leftist' (the implication of this being that those without her privilege don't have the potential to be as committed as her?)

no way!! did she actually say this?

 

[love detective]

In as many words, yes

Also seems to be beyond comprehension that understanding the unfairness of your relative privilege might make you a more committed leftist.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
@MrHarryCole oh, you mean the naked underage pictures you had of me from university? stay classy.

such a fibber

 

[frogwoman]

In as many words, yes

Bloody hell.

 

[butchersapron]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
@MrHarryCole oh, you mean the naked underage pictures you had of me from university? stay classy.

such a fibber

At what age did she start university then? (Just concentrating on that aspect for now got my suspicions about the other).

 

[Idris2002]

I'm glad Marx never had access to twitter

Imagine what he would have posted while drunk.

 

[frogwoman]

In as many words, yes

I don't even know where to start with this one, for christ's sake.

 

[love detective]

Imagine what he would have posted while drunk.

i was thinking more about the impact on his output - but yes it would be all 'the jewish nigger said this' and 'the jewish nigger said that'

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

At what age did she start university then? (Just concentrating on that aspect for now got my suspicions about the other).

exactly!

 

[butchersapron]

Given he spent a whole year on exposing just one person (and i think it was worthwhile despite what the bores say)...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Given he spent a whole year on exposing just one person (and i think it was worthwhile despite what the bores say)...

Are you talking about Marx or Staines now?