Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[elbows]

Having not looked at twitter during the time period in question, how am I now supposed to get a sense of what sorts of messages made Moore quit twitter anyway? Help!

 

[SpineyNorman]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Re: Burchill, transmisogyny and bullshit. Don't worry, guys and girls, I'm on this. *rolls up sleeves*

She's going to hovelsplain them.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Having not looked at twitter during the time period in question, how am I now supposed to get a sense of what sorts of messages made Moore quit twitter anyway? Help!

Storify is your friend in such circumstances for making a start on finding out what happened:

http://storify.com/leftytgirl/suzanne-moore-timeline-of-trans-misogynistic-twitt

 

[Firky]

Windinyournecksplaining

You can fuck off too

 

[Buckaroo]

Frankie Boyle‏@frankieboyle
If anything, the emotional, irrational reaction of transsexuals to Suzanne Moore's article shows once and for all that they are real women.

Sexist bastard ffs!

 

[Balbi]

Storify is your friend in such circumstances for making a start on finding out what happened:

http://storify.com/leftytgirl/suzanne-moore-timeline-of-trans-misogynistic-twitt

Re-reading that's painful now - they weren't shutting down debate, it was two fucking words

 

[Brixton Hatter]

if everyone stopped wasting all their time arguing on Twitter, we could have nice things, like a revolution

 

[BigTom]

Ah, they're American. They're forgiven.

She's not American, she's a 17 (or 18?) yr old from London and she's alright - involved with or around alarm and solfed.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

I think firky might be getting mixed up with some anarchist prick in the States who Lusty likes to wind up.

 

[Firky]

She's not American, she's a 17 (or 18?) yr old from London and she's alright - involved with or around alarm and solfed.

She has Colarado as her location, I never looked in at her page only the pop up thing you get which tells you their name and location (twittercast app).

 

[Firky]

I think firky might be getting mixed up with some anarchist prick in the States who Lusty likes to wind up.

I think he was winding up militant muslims the other week

 

[BigTom]

She has Colarado as her location, I never looked in at her page only the pop up thing you get which tells you their name and location (twittercast app).

Just looked and yeah she does but she definitely isn't - check the last few tweets and you'll see a reference to PE a-level.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

I think he was winding up militant muslims the other week

'cuddly.'

That particular anarchist is an embarrassing shit, though. A good example of why working class people won't touch that stuff with a barge pole.

 

[elbows]

Storify is your friend in such circumstances for making a start on finding out what happened:

http://storify.com/leftytgirl/suzanne-moore-timeline-of-trans-misogynistic-twitt

Ta very much

I'm tempted to conclude that far from being bullied off of twitter, she simply made a complete arse of defending herself and then melted.

 

[Firky]

'cuddly.'

That particular anarchist is an embarrassing shit, though. A good example of why working class people won't touch that stuff with a barge pole.

Indeed. There's not much choice out there between them and the others, if Owen is the best of the bunch god fucking help us.

 

[Delroy Booth]

'cuddly.'

That particular anarchist is an embarrassing shit, though. A good example of why working class people won't touch that stuff with a barge pole.

Tip of the iceberg that one is. That group is well on the way into degenerating into a cult, don't pay them much heed. If guardian journo's want to click-bait them MailOnline style to generate some revenue let them, this lot will go head first into it without giving a second thought to how they're being used.

And "Cuddly" is a prick I once caught him tweeting about "the alleged perpertrators of 9/11" (Dog-whistle for Mossad did 9/11) and when I challenged him on it he deleted the tweet.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

Not to slag all annakisseds mind, but fuck me. He likes to smash this, and smash that. He'd be getting smashed in the mouth if he did that shit near some of my workmates.

 

[equationgirl]

I fancy hanging her and her kind from a tree.

Bit harsh.

 

[Firky]

Not to slag all annakisseds mind, but fuck me. He likes to smash this, and smash that. He'd be getting smashed in the mouth if he did that shit near some of my workmates.

I suspect he's full of shit and is probably an Estate Agent or something.

 

[Delroy Booth]

Not to slag all annakisseds mind, but fuck me. He likes to smash this, and smash that. He'd be getting smashed in the mouth if he did that shit near some of my workmates.

Yeah well when I think of "Anarchist" the first thing that pops into my head is Jonny May-Bowles. Class War was a long, long time ago. Things have changed.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Julie bindel and julie burchill have always been dodgy about this issue, as has suzanne moore iirc. Look at the whole radfem2012 conference debacle for example


there are some fucking cesspools out there once you get into the extreme end of "radical feminism" (how these people define it, i mean), they have basically turned feminism into nationalism. It's really scary.

I reckon Kenan Malik's spiel about "radical" being used where "fundamentalist" is more appropriate applies here.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I think that the radfems are as bad as, if not worse than, misogynists. They make me really cross.

And like misogynists do, they'll excuse their misandry.

 

[frogwoman]

And like misogynists do, they'll excuse their misandry.

it isn't just men they hate, it's everyone who doesn't agree 100% with them. they seem to hate straight women and transsexuals more than they hate men.

 

[weepiper]

it isn't just men they hate, it's everyone who doesn't agree 100% with them. they seem to hate straight women and transsexuals more than they hate men.

I think that's totally unfair froggy.

 

[Fedayn]

I think that's totally unfair froggy.

On who?

 

[frogwoman]

I think that's totally unfair froggy.

to be fair they really fucking do hate men tho.

 

[Balbi]

There's certainly examples of them being absolutely fucking atrocious to both groups - but that shouldn't characterise them all

 

[ViolentPanda]

it isn't just men they hate, it's everyone who doesn't agree 100% with them. they seem to hate straight women and transsexuals more than they hate men.

Which is why "fundamentalist" is a much better description of their outlook than "radical".

 

[The39thStep]

She's not American, she's a 17 (or 18?) yr old from London and she's alright - involved with or around alarm and solfed.

Not sure that those groups are safe for unaccompanied people of that age.

 

[frogwoman]

they're only a minority of feminists, tbf