Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[articul8]

Comics writer.

thought for a sec it was the violinist and chum of Nick Cave

 

[rekil]

Who is he?

If his wiki is correct, he's a bit of twat as well.

Before starting his career as a writer, Ellis did "most of the shitty jobs you can imagine; ran a bookstore, ran a pub, worked in bankruptcy, worked in a record shop, lifted compost bags for a living"

How is running a bookshop shitty? What's the worst thing that can happen?

 

[butchersapron]

Ditto a pub

 

[rekil]

Any of them.

 

[DotCommunist]

I've had beef with warren ellis for riffing on Midwich Cuckoos in his Freak Angels comic then claiming not to TO MY INTERNET FACE on his mssg board thing. Freak Angels is still a good comic though.

 

[ViolentPanda]

If his wiki is correct, he's a bit of twat as well.

How is running a bookshop shitty? What's the worst thing that can happen?

Customers, mate. Customers.

 

[frogwoman]

Running a bookshop's not a shitty job - I'd love to have any job, never mind be a reasonaly well paid manager of a shop

 

[articul8]

Running a bookshop sounds like a dream job - not a chain but a little indie one...

 

[DotCommunist]

Even with a chain you get all the review copies you can lust for. Much like Penny's oyster gobbling y-front clad housemate does, the cutters choice swine.

 

[butchersapron]

Running a bookshop sounds like a dream job - not a chain but a little indie one...

That's a bit like saying being a pop star would be great, but not a good one, a really shit unknown one.

 

[DotCommunist]

keep the aspidistras flying

 

[Louis MacNeice]

He could have worked in Tesco; how demeaning would that be?

Louis MacNeice

 

[5t3IIa]

With all the hate she attracts I'm surprised there's not more people coming out of the woodwork from her past revealing embarrassing or contradictory stuff about her tbh...

I sense that you might be just the person who is holding this alleged dirt..............?

I can tell by your elipses.

 

[butchersapron]

Anyway, it's nice to see one fiction writer being appreciative of another.

 

[rekil]

Her indy piece is chockers with made up stuff. Has to be.

In a pile of cast-off jumpers, donated by supporters to keep the protesters warm in the chill October nights – no tents are allowed – I find a faded sweater reading "Obama '08". Now the Obama generation is beginning to understand that substantive change does not tend to happen if you ask nicely and play by the rules.

 

[DotCommunist]

The temporary society that has been built here is a mini-utopia of inclusivity and delicious vegan snacks,

oh just fuck off.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Her indy piece is chockers with made up stuff. Has to be.

The Obama sweater was next to this

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[killer b]

laurie leads a truly serendipitous life.

 

[articul8]

That's a bit like saying being a pop star would be great, but not a good one, a really shit unknown one.

how is it? The measure of a bookshop being any good is - like music - best judged not in purely commercial terms?

 

[DotCommunist]

If the revolution is 'delicious' vegan snacks and laurie penny stamping on my balls forever then count me out.

 

[butchersapron]

how is it? The measure of a bookshop being any good is - like music - best judged not in purely commercial terms?

You're not william blake you know.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Just been sent this link to an article by LP in the New Statesman: http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny/2011/10/wall-street-york-police-bridge I can't check Twitter at the moment (due to it not working at this end, for some reason), but I was under the impression that she'd just returned to the UK from being on some ship/island commune thing for a couple of weeks. How could she post an article to do with the Wall Street protests, then, if that is the case???

 

[rekil]

Customers, mate. Customers.

Garf coming in every day demanding to know why the neds atomic dustbin biography isn't stocked.

 

[killer b]

she flew straight out to NY, i think. certainly within a week anyway.

i'm horrified i know this, btw.

 

[DotCommunist]

The voice of the young bourgeois left will lift spirit no end. Soon they will be roasting bankers on fires made from old copies of the Socialist Worker and singing the internationale in mexican spanish. Nopaper round!

etc

 

[MellySingsDoom]

I've just been looking through that article, and came across this:

They mean that the police, like the protesters, are part of the "99 per cent' of the population whose livelihoods are threatened by the financial crisis, as opposed to the 1% of wealthy Americans still raking in profit. "We are the 99 percent," says the group on its Tumblr site. "We are getting kicked out of our homes. We are forced to choose between groceries and rent. We are denied quality medical care. We are suffering from environmental pollution. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we are working at all. We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything. We are the 99 percent." It's a very polite way of saying 'class war.'

Can we expect Ms Penny to start "manning the barricades" from the comfort of her laptop, exhorting her comrades to fight the pigs, man, whilst she smokes another carefully-rolled cigarette?

 

[andy2002]

Comics writer.

To be fair to Warren, he's a journalist and novelist, too.

 

[andy2002]

Spider Jerusalem is just a liberal with guns and drugs. Remember that in the election he advocated voting for "the beast" as the (slightly) lesser of two evils and in his final battle with the Smiler he survives due to being supported by a millionaire political donor who's spoilt daughter fancies Spider.

Ellis is an Old Labour man at heart. I'm just surprised he's fallen so easily for Penny whatsherface's "Me! Me! Me!" nonsense. I thought he was a lot cleverer than that.

 

[Random]

Ellis is an Old Labour man at heart. I'm just surprised he's fallen so easily for Penny whatsherface's "Me! Me! Me!" nonsense. I thought he was a lot cleverer than that.

A bit odd that his standards for Outlaw Journalism are, in actual fact, rather low. I suppose he's just anorther liberal-left media professional when you come down to it.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

He's alright, though he doesn't like my views on individual comicbooks Vs graphic novels and epublishing.