Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[audiotech]

silence is golden.

 

[butchersapron]

Practice what thou preach priest.

 

[Firky]

Apparently she was advised not to publish anything on it because it could affect the individual concerned and that she should instead get in touch with Samaritans and so on. But she went ahead and published anyway - we've only got the bloke's word for it who she apparently asked for advice so there might be more to it but it doesn't look good.

Abit of sniffing around on twitter and it appears that several people who are mental health professionals (mainly nurses) told her to get in touch with Samaritans, Mind etc. but rather than heading this advice and taken it on board she used the person's distress as a vehicle for her own self gain.

That may link up with the screen shots of the tweets Firky posted earlier on in this thread.

I found some comments on NS saying similar too but now I am looking for htem I can't find them. Arse!

 

[butchersapron]

Little gain,just an example of we know best, you know who we mean, us.

 

[audiotech]

I shot the sheriff....

 

[butchersapron]

Have a sit down then and come back with a point. Because there is one.

 

[audiotech]

....of tombstone.

 

[butchersapron]

In a pile of cast-off jumpers, donated by supporters to keep the protesters warm in the chill October nights – no tents are allowed – I find a faded sweater reading "Obama '08"

For real. They printed that.

 

[rekil]

A little bit pathos. Serendipitous pathos.

 

[butchersapron]

She got cash dollars for that lie.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Did she find any teddy bears?

 

[JimW]

Child's shoe, shurely?

 

[Firky]

Child's shoe, shurely?

Slightly scorched.

 

[bluestreak]

For real. They printed that.

when i was at occupy someone from HMV came down and donated a box of promotional star wars t-shirts.

 

[Bakunin]

4)Pretty much make shit up. That way you can even write it before the event. If anyone calls you on it, blame it on misogyny, sectarianism or jealousy.

'Form journalism' in the same style as a form letter, you mean? Write up some piece of outright bullshit with blank bits where you insert names/dates/quotes and a few cliches here and there?

That would mean that Penny Dreadful could churn out reams of poorly-written, fabricated-yet-lucrative garbage while seldom having to indulge in anything so tiresome as fact-checking?

Oh, wait...

 

[Firky]

She's pissed off Judith Wanga.

 

[rekil]

Penny Dreadful

It's rude to fuck about with her username since she posts here. Dave is probably ok though.

 

[equationgirl]

She's pissed off Judith Wanga.

How?

 

[Firky]

I'd post a screenshot but it contains bob marley.

http://i.imgur.com/qqbwe.png

 

[SpineyNorman]

Hoist by her own petard identity politics.

 

[bluestreak]

How?

Who?

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

Just sat down to watch "The Mummy Returns"...as you do. Some Egyptian guy...son of the desert...and immortal guardian of some piece of sacred shite...has just announced to the clean cut American geezer: "If you don't embrace your past, you have no future."

Profound stuff....no?

"For every writer and activist, the class we're from matters-but not as much as the class we fight for"

Seems the Voice of a Generation speaks with he wisdom of countless generations gone. Except...as Bertrand taught us..

Suppose there is a class of all classes that are not included in themselves. A paradox arises from asking the question of whether this class is in itself. It is a member of itself if and only if it is not a member of itself. This is Russell's paradox.

 

[love detective]

all politics are identity politics.

what in the name of janet street porter's rotten clitoris is she on

 

[Citizen66]

Didn't someone's mam once turn up somewhere (matb?) to tell you to leave her daughter alone? Thought it was the same person but obviously not.

 

[Firky]

That was binka's mum. She said we had to be nice.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
@Badassperger @judeinlondon it's about understanding privilege, not excusing it.

 

[Citizen66]

Ah right a poster? I thought it was some student journo or something.

 

[SpineyNorman]

what in the name of janet street porter's rotten clitoris is she on

Misogynist

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

#@Badassperger @judeinlondon it's about understanding privilege, not excusing it.#

See she's been brushing up on her Marx again..."Theses on Feuerbach", I presume...

"the philosophers have only excused privilege, the point is to...erm...understand it"....nothing about "changing it", you'll notice.

Self-serving reactionary bourgeois soup dragon.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Didn't someone's mam once turn up somewhere (matb?) to tell you to leave her daughter alone? Thought it was the same person but obviously not.

lusty was lusting over some young lass from RESPECT and someone claiming to be the mum registered and told everyone off. I still stand by the view that it was another poster taking the piss

 

[Firky]

Maidmarion I reckon