Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[sam goloden]

I get the sense that you feel world weary at times

I'm getting increasingly like that. These days I enjoy going to the pub on my own and imagining how I must look to other people sitting over my pint looking cynical and jaded. Sometimes I sigh forcefully.

 

[butchersapron]

Fuck off then ffs.

 

[sam goloden]

Fuck off then ffs.

I'm going later. The floor will be yours to continue the relentless attack on privilege. From the kitchen table.

 

[butchersapron]

He had numerous desperate attempts to get back in to talk to people he didn't want to talk to officer. And pockets full of tissues.

 

[sam goloden]

He had numerous desperate attempts to get back in to talk to people he didn't want to talk to officer. And pockets full of tissues.

I keep experiencing the need to prove to myself that I'm still alive.

 

[rekil]

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*And tell Copliker if he's going to wear the outfit at least shave his fucking legs.

Now that's a little bit misogyny.

 

[The39thStep]

Well I've just found this place. It's an absolute delight. I was only ever aware of la Penny as a mild but largely irrelevant irritant in the Toynbee mode; ie. grossly over privileged, lacking any affinity with genuine deprivation, but hoping that half-arsed stunts in the Orwell "down and Out" trope would somehow overshadow her ridiculously haute bourgeois origins.

This has really opened my eyes...and I've only read 10 pages. What a self-serving, careerist fraud she is. Obviously my assessment is informed by my misogyny and my rank jealousy, but none the less...what a fuckin disgrace she is.
I've read a few of her pieces now. What struck me is the blindingly obvious fact that her overwrought prose style is clearly massively influenced by Hitchens. She must have read everything he wrote. The more of her I read, the more convinced I became. Obviously, she'd never acknowledge the fact, but it's friggin plain as day.

She's very sad on the whole and a political and economic naïf. I especially loved this...
#Precisely, which is why it's so important for journalists to build new networks that undercut old privilege systems.#

Obviously, I'm just one of those unreconstructed dinosaurs who can't come to terms with the fact that a system in which ex public school, Oxbridge types cause the inequality, write about how dreadful it is, and then lead the 'popular' dissent isn't really incestuous...it's just that I'm in thrall to 'old privilege' paradigms and can't see how how liberating and inclusive it is to read the deluded musings of silly little rich girls.

If you build it, he will come

 

[The39thStep]

I'm getting increasingly like that. These days I enjoy going to the pub on my own and imagining how I must look to other people sitting over my pint looking cynical and jaded. Sometimes I sigh forcefully.

Lonely pint syndrome

 

[frogwoman]

I can just imagine lletsa doing that across the pub from nigel irritable looking glum over his copy of the socialist

 

[8den]

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever - I have no idea what you're trying to say here.





Fuck off you Peter Hitchens apologist shitcunt.

When have I ever apologised for Peter Hitchens you delusional wankstain.

 

[8den]

father of conservatism said:

Are you off your medication again grandad?

 

[sam goloden]

Lonely pint syndrome

I like it though.

 

[The39thStep]

I can just imagine lletsa doing that across the pub from nigel irritable looking glum over his copy of the socialist

I get the impression that Nigel would want to be seen reading The Socialist, probably leave a copy behind in case anyone saw one and thought ' I think I will read that'

Where is llettsa these days?

 

[8den]

Then take that up with spanky. I'm commenting on your use of it.

Ah so When Spanky uses it it's okay, when I use it, it's naughty, or something. Do you even have a rational coherent thought program running around that feeble withered organ sitting atop your shoulders?

 

[butchersapron]

Off the thread 8den. This one is for exposing the idiocy behind decent people and their help.

 

[Blagsta]

Ah so When Spanky uses it it's okay, when I use it, it's naughty, or something. Do you even have a rational coherent thought program running around that feeble withered organ sitting atop your shoulders?

When did i say it was OK?

 

[frogwoman]

I get the impression that Nigel would want to be seen reading The Socialist, probably leave a copy behind in case anyone saw one and thought ' I think I will read that'

Where is llettsa these days?

closer than you think, i reckon!

 

[8den]

When did i say it was OK?

I'm just trying to figure out your logic. If I'm correct without double standards you'd have no standards.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm just trying to figure out your logic. If I'm correct without double standards you'd have no standards.

This way please sir.

 

[8den]

Off the thread 8den. This one is for exposing the idiocy behind decent people and their help.

RAH RAH RAH RAH, I'm butchersapron self appointed sheriff of this thread, and I don't see the irony of trying to bully others about their opinions, while proclaiming myself as a anarchist.

 

[phildwyer]

How did you get the morning star job?

They practically press gang people to be subs on the Morning Star.

 

[butchersapron]

RAH RAH RAH RAH, I'm butchersapron self appointed sheriff of this thread, and I don't see the irony of trying to bully others about their opinions, while proclaiming myself as a anarchist.

Is your mammy away this weekend, is there someone who looks after you who we can talk to?

Off the thread. Now.

 

[Blagsta]

I'm just trying to figure out your logic. If I'm correct without double standards you'd have no standards.

I didn't see the post in question.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

*Real revolutions, I mean, not these fake 'colour' ones or 'springs' where another faction of the same miserable bunch of gangsters get swept to power by those who'll be repaid with favours, the naive, the apolitical and the lost.

why should laurie be lectured by you, with that glib shite?

 

[phildwyer]

I am delighted Laurie Penny has come on to this thread. It has given it a new energy. I will be even more delighted when she moves over to some of the other issues in the Politics Forums and makes contributions there.

Like you, you mean?

 

[butchersapron]

Fucking hell. Thanks god.

 

[phildwyer]

So you wanted to go to Oxford, fine. Why make out in 2012 that you were informed that you would be applying, 'no question'. Why no mention in the 2012 article that you wanted to go? why the omission?

Why did you say that in 2003 you had been informed by a teacher that you would be applying as though it was some kind of imposition put on you, when a year earlier in 2002 you had already expressed your desire to go there?

McCarthy lives.

 

[love detective]

 

[butchersapron]

phil
8den

Off the thread. Now.

 

[cesare]

What's the monothought clique's party line on this latest LP piece, where she responds to the disabled reader who was threatening to take her own life in protest against the ConDems?

http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2012/12/you-are-not-scrounger-letter-disabled-reader

I thought it was rather good, actually. . .

Although Susan Archibald's second comment is interesting ...