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by virtue of her relationship to the means of production. She has to sell her labour power for a wage. Her (creative) labour goes towards the production of a commodity which is sold for profit.

She is also young and vaguely pretty.

Dunno about that - There's something about her appearance that makes me think that if she'd been in the bathroom for a number two, you'd be well advised to give it a fair bit longer than ten minutes before going in after her.
 
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I can see that, yup. It started life as Owen Jones but I changed it to LP because of the simple fact she irks me a lot more!



Let it go. Nobody's heard of her.

For a thread dominated by those who put the working class at the centre of their politics, there's a fascination with Laura and her ilk that's completely perplexing when you consider that 99% of working class people (and most other people, too, actually) will live and die without ever hearing about Laura Penny.
 
For a thread dominated by those who put the working class at the centre of their politics, there's a fascination with Laura and her ilk that's completely perplexing
The fascination is mostly because her career is a living example of how class power works. I don't expect this to convince you, though, since you've posted the same complaint several times about how you're all confused and perplexed.
 
The fascination is mostly because her career is a living example of how class power works. I don't expect this to convince you, though, since you've posted the same complaint several times about how you're all confused and perplexed.

I'm not confused really... But why does this matter when her kind only influence each other and a relative handful of online obsessives?

And people say that the internet isn't, on the whole, politically debilitating.
 
I'm not confused really... But why does this matter when her kind only influence each other and a relative handful of online obsessives?

And people say that the internet isn't, on the whole, politically debilitating.
See what I mean about the 40 pages of complaining? "What are you all hanging around here for? it's really boring."
 
See what I mean about the 40 pages of complaining? "What are you all hanging around here for? it's really boring."



I'm not bothered really. It's just fascinating. In a small way.

But I'll never understand why she's supposed to matter when nobody has heard of her and never will. Least of all the working class.
 
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Is it foxy in a desperate new gambit to stir up some shit?

well I'll be well and truly damned! :D Welcome to these strange shores, Laurie!
 
Jesus christ, I just found a forum full of so-called lefties speculating about my personal finances and toilet habits.

"so-called lefties" - check.

a))how you really cannot find a better example of the use of cultural capital based on privilege to extend and transmit that privilege into the future

b) how certain people attempt to recuperate social movements for their own careerists ends (some journos) and how other groups of people help/make this happen (editors, media bosses) and

c) how politics is reduced in this game to just another fashion, this years fad. In short how the media and the culture they create and reflect works

d) personal annoyance at the sort of barely disguised pushy middle class self-obsession that we've all seen in our social or work lives being (self) promoted as the voice of a generation (without even going into the infantile divisions this sort of crap assumes).

no check :(
 
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