Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[killer b]

i'm curious whether her stratospheric rise through the pages of the liberal press is down to her talent for writing, nose for a story and attention to detail; or because her dad's on the scott trust board or something.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

i'm curious whether her stratospheric rise through the pages of the liberal press is down to her talent for writing, nose for a story and attention to detail; or because her dad's on the scott trust board or something.

Ahhh...I see. Couldn't say, don't know.

 

[frogwoman]

I just had Laurie Penny suggested to me as a friend by facebook

 

[DotCommunist]

freind her and and c+p quotes from the various threads onto her wall. See how long it takes to get defreinded

 

[Kid_Eternity]

i'm curious whether her stratospheric rise through the pages of the liberal press is down to her talent for writing, nose for a story and attention to detail; or because her dad's on the scott trust board or something.

interestingly I read a piece by her the other day talking about how it's been for her trying to make it as a journo, she said her parents aren't in the media etc.

 

[DotCommunist]

a shame the hardships were not insurmountable eh

 

[butchersapron]

They're not exactly labourers.

Do you have a link?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

They're not exactly labourers.

Do you have a link?

Seems some of the flack she's got recent has hit a nerve, this tweet has the link:

FYI, anyone calling me a clueless posh bitch on the internet: my stock response is here. http://bit.ly/cnPeUN

 

[killer b]

that's quite some whinge.

 

[nino_savatte]

I just had Laurie Penny suggested to me as a friend by facebook

 

[butchersapron]

All the jobs because of talent. That's how it works.

 

[DotCommunist]

that's quite some whinge.

I particularly enjoy the call to arms in the last line. That knowing rhetorical flourish-ugh.


In fairness she is not the only person guilty of that.

 

[killer b]

i get the impression she's heading towards some sort of breakdown tbh.

can't wait for the column about that...

 

[Bakunin]

that's quite some whinge.

It does seem somewhat defensive and self-reverential, not to mention self-justifying. I've known a few journalists in my time and I've never encountered one who felt an urge to complain about how difficult it is to get noticed and get work. They just crack on with the job and don't whimper every time they receive a little (well-founded) criticism. If they were that sensitive then they'd not last long in that line of work.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

i get the impression she's heading towards some sort of breakdown tbh.

I've thought this too, I think she's mentioned suffering from clinical depression at some point in the past.

 

[butchersapron]

More /reality/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Eh?

 

[butchersapron]

I've thought this too, I think she's mentioned suffering from clinical depression at some point in the past.

What are you basing this on?

 

[butchersapron]

Eh?

Getting caught again.

 

[killer b]

Getting caught again.

she shoots herself in the foot with this shit too - the only reason most people know about it is because of her (transparent) denials via twitter.

 

[DotCommunist]

its odd- surely a journo would know that to lie properly you lie big and fat. Not about illusory choirs doing the interntationale or whatever. Certainly never respond to people calling you a liar with hissy 'no I aint'.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

What are you basing this on?

Well I'm not 100% hence using the word 'think' as a caveat but I remember reading somewhere on her blog a good while ago or perhaps an article where she mentioned it.

 

[butchersapron]

She does - in a tourist way. It's bollocks.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

She does - in a tourist way. It's bollocks.

How do you know it's bollox (other than the 'evidence' that you don't believe her)?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Awesome "Yeah I went to a good school and Oxford but I still had to work. So that's all right then."

The easiest way to get people to stop calling you a clueless posh bitch is to stop writing like one, I would have thought.

 

[sihhi]

We should play the ball, not the man/woman. I don't know how much her wealth is but it should be redistributed amongst the movement - that's our demand, not that she commit suicide or suffer depression.

Our other demand is that she sort out her journalism. She has been justifying the aerial assaults over Libya on twitter. FFS as a journalist if you are not sure about something don't bloody spout it all around everywhere.

 

[killer b]

it's impossible to play the ball without playing the woman, in this case. the two are indistinguishable.

 

[butchersapron]

We should play the ball, not the man/woman. I don't know how much her wealth is but it should be redistributed amongst the movement - that's our demand, not that she commit suicide or suffer depression.

Our other demand is that she sort out her journalism. She has been justifying the aerial assaults over Libya on twitter. FFS as a journalist if you are not sure about something don't bloody spout it all around everywhere.

Oh god, end of.

Get it now people?

 

[rekil]

Give her a few years and she'll be churning out guff about how lefties are all useless jealous wankers who hate success and don't understand human nature and the like, because she used to be one until she grew up and so on.

 

[Sue]

A new Melanie Philips?