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[Jazzz]

oh well fair enough, if you insist. I think first to go has to be editor. I mean, great job setting up the boards and all, but he needs a break really.

Ban the fucker!

 

[editor]

Then maybe you should ask for them in pm?

Maybe you should have PMd me with this list of Bushbots before blabbing about them here?

I have messaged you about one poster in the past, no action taken there!

Oh I am sorry for not jumping to attention immediately and instantly taking action the second I received your PM.

 

[editor]

There are one or two posters whose presence on these boards I'm not too happy with, I'm sure that's the same with everyone. I'm not going to name them though, that would be out of order.

Indeed. Privately not liking a poster is quite a different thing to publicly stating that there's Bushbots at play here and then refusing to name them.

 

[editor]

oh well fair enough, if you insist. I think first to go has to be editor. I mean, great job setting up the boards and all, but he needs a break really.

Ban the fucker!

(editor scrubs DrJ off his social function list)

 

[editor]

perhaps you'd better change your metaphor cos if seagull sees it there'll be trouble.

I somehow doubt that.

 

[Pickman's model]

I somehow doubt that.

what, this thread's destined for a better world?

 

[tarannau]

There are one or two posters whose presence on these boards I'm not too happy with, I'm sure that's the same with everyone. I'm not going to name them though, that would be out of order. That doesn't mean I must pretend I think everything's perfect!

That's not the point thought is it DrJ. You're wecome to dislike as many posters as you like - perfect agreement on these boards would be very boring.

You're welcome to argue against named posters and debate with their specific opinions and facts on a relevant thread. However when you try and support your argument by disparaging unnamed individuals and their 'supposed' opinions/activities it becomes a little dodgy - you're only really holding an imaginary, evidence-free debate with yourself in that case....

 

[editor]

what, this thread's destined for a better world?

Err, no. I doubt that a rarely-visiting poster who hasn't been here for three months is going to "make trouble" over tarannau's use of his user name.

 

[Raisin D'etre]

Maybe you should have PMd me with this list of Bushbots before blabbing about them here?

Oh I am sorry for not jumping to attention immediately and instantly taking action the second I received your PM.

Thats not how it happened at all! I wrote to you initially and, you replied promptly, telling me to deal with it myself.

 

[Pickman's model]

& did you?

 

[Raisin D'etre]

How? Im no moderator. Why would the poster listen to me? I then wrote back to Ed a day later and told him that I hadn't done anything about it because I did not have the authority to do it. Thats how my complaint was dealt with. No response from Ed.

 

[Pickman's model]

How? Im no moderator. Why would the poster listen to me? I then wrote back to Ed a day later and told him that I hadn't done anything about it because I did not have the authority to do it. Thats how my complaint was dealt with. No response from Ed.

so, in summary, your complaint wasn't dealt with?

 

[Raisin D'etre]

Absolutely!

 

[nino_savatte]

Great isn't it?

 

[editor]

so, in summary, your complaint wasn't dealt with?

How would you know?

I'm under no obligation to submit written reports to PMs, mainly because I've got about a trillion better things to do.

And who's to say her complaint was justified/relevant/worth bothering with in the first place?

 

[editor]

Thats not how it happened at all! I wrote to you initially and, you replied promptly, telling me to deal with it myself.

And it sounds like you took finally control of the situation yourself and put the poster on ignore.

Did you really need me to tell you to do that?

Good to see that I bothered to respond so promptly though, especially as I'm so busy. With such excellent service, anyone would think I was being paid for the job!

 

[Jazzz]

I propose a group hug.

 

[Raisin D'etre]

And it sounds like you took finally control of the situation yourself and put the poster on ignore.

Did you really need me to tell you to do that?

Good to see that I bothered to respond so promptly though, especially as I'm so busy. With such excellent service, anyone would think I was being paid for the job!

That's not the point! What are the rules here about trolling and also linking to racist websites with inflammatory content? This was about a principle and the situation was not dealt with by me putting the poster on ignore!

 

[fela fan]

I propose a group hug.

Do kids do that?

 

[Jazzz]

enough already!

 

[editor]

That's not the point! What are the rules here about trolling and also linking to racist websites with inflammatory content? This was about a principle and the situation was not dealt with by me putting the poster on ignore!

I assume I didn't agree with your definition of what was a 'racist website with inflammatory content' or perhaps I couldn't be arsed to wade through zillions of pages to find out what you were on about.

I can't remember, to be honest as I sometimes have to deal with tens of user requests every day.

Did you report the post? Amazing though it may seem, I don't possess unlimited resources to investigate personal requests, so perhaps other mods may have looked at it too,

I can say however, that I don't recall anyone else complaining at the time.

 

[Raisin D'etre]

I assume I didn't agree with your definition of what was a 'racist website with inflammatory content' or perhaps I couldn't be arsed to wade through zillions of pages to find out what you were on about.

I can't remember, to be honest as I sometimes have to deal with tens of user requests every day.

Did you report the post? Amazing though it may seem, I don't possess unlimited resources to investigate personal requests, so perhaps other mods may have looked at it too,

I can say however, that I don't recall anyone else complaining at the time.

Yes. I reported it and then sent you a PM.

 

[editor]

Yes. I reported it and then sent you a PM.

So clearly the rest of the mods choose not to act on it too.

Ever considered the wild possibility that your complaint may not have been justified? And why aren't you whining on about the lack of action from the other mods?

They would have got a copy of your reported posts too, you know.

 

[ill-informed]

i'm starting to wish i knew who it was now.

 

[Raisin D'etre]

And if as you say that nobody chose to act on it because my complaints were not justified then I would be very surprised as the author of the site and its contents have been condemned by the EU and a large number of human rights activists and academics internationally!

 

[editor]

And if as you say that nobody chose to act on it because my complaints were not justified then I would be very surprised as the author of the site and its contents have been condemned by the EU and a large number of human rights activists and academics internationally!

So should the admin team blindly follow EU guidelines then?

 

[Raisin D'etre]

I would hope that if someone were inciting hatred towards another group that such views would not be tolerated here. Does that bother you or not?

 

[Jangla]

NIST have been good enough to get back to me! Here's what they wrote:

Thank you for your interest in the NIST World Trade Center Investigation (WTC). NIST has produced simulations of the fire in both of the WTC towers; however, both are not always posted on the NIST WTC web site.

On April 5, 2005, NIST held a public briefing to present the latest findings from its building and fire safety investigation of the WTC disaster. The presentation from the briefing is available on the web site at http://wtc.nist.gov. Also available on the web site is a comprehensive presentation on NIST's WTC investigation that contains information on the reconstruction of the fires in WTC 1 and WTC 2 (Part IIB of the presentation).

WTC Administrative Support Team

Ed, I hope this meets with your approval as I know you doubted whether I even emailed them in the first place.

Not sure if it's my installation of acrobat, but there's around 60 pages missing from the presentation they mention
I'm also slightly confused by this statement:

both are not always posted on the NIST WTC web site.

Why not? Perhaps a typo but why post it up there sometimes and remove it at other times? Perhaps I'll fire off another email and ask them. I'll also ask for fully 3 dimensional animations of both the fire spread and impact of WTC 2. The reason for asking this is that I'm still wary of their 2D animation of the WTC2 strike - it appears to show the aircraft entering in a straight line (at an angle to the building but still very much nose forwards) whereas an aircraft that had just banked sharply would still carry a lot of sideways momentum.

And Ed, I'll keep a copy of the email this time.

 

[Loki]

whereas an aircraft that had just banked sharply would still carry a lot of sideways momentum.

But that would be no way near the forward momentum; it would be negligable in terms of the impact.

 

[Jangla]

But that would be no way near the forward momentum; it would be negligable in terms of the impact.

I think I didn't explain myself properly there. The aircraft would be moving forwards with great momentum, the late bank would have done very little to change that aside from altering the nose direction - consider forwards in this case to not to be directly at the tower, rather it's angle prior to the bank. The NIST animation seems as if all this momentum was instantly converted to an angle parallel to the building when the bank took place, showing the plane moving almost paralel to the building.