The Al-Qaeda Cell that never officially existed
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mauvais
on reddit or something
HOLD ON A MINUTE!
We've had this before! http://urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=136557&page=1&highlight=waqar
Only when he posted it last time, it was by a different bloke and the details were wrong as per the article I found - in fact, it was a direct C&P
We've had this before! http://urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=136557&page=1&highlight=waqar
Only when he posted it last time, it was by a different bloke and the details were wrong as per the article I found - in fact, it was a direct C&P
Why don't you read that thread first, then you will understand I chased the story up personally for this article (by going up to the hotel), and explained that there were mistakes in that essay. That one came from a second hand recollection of the Daily Jang article. This one has come from Mr Burki himself. I've taken care to get the story as told by Mr Burki.mauvais mangue said:HOLD ON A MINUTE!
We've had this before! http://urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=136557&page=1&highlight=waqar
Only when he posted it last time, it was by a different bloke and the details were wrong as per the article I found - in fact, it was a direct C&P
editor should be well aware of all this, like anyone else who was present on the previous thread, however - most amusingly - he doesn't seem to be.
To those criticising Fong - you are saying 'play the man, not the ball' as if it's the given way to be!
Apparently the way he likes his name spelt is Mr Burki, although everyone tends to spell it Barki.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Yeah, but the thing is, his story is uncorroborated and sounds, well, a bit... balls.
"Attack London", "Attack Paris"? "Many terrorist-related books"? A big knife with blood on it? (Presumably imported straight from hacking off some guy's head in Iraq.) It's pretty much the entire checklist of Stuff That One Would Want To Find On Terrorists. It makes flight manuals and indestructible passports sound positively believable. One would want evidence from other people who'd seen the stuff, really, that would seem the minimum. You did ask other people apart from him, right?
"Attack London", "Attack Paris"? "Many terrorist-related books"? A big knife with blood on it? (Presumably imported straight from hacking off some guy's head in Iraq.) It's pretty much the entire checklist of Stuff That One Would Want To Find On Terrorists. It makes flight manuals and indestructible passports sound positively believable. One would want evidence from other people who'd seen the stuff, really, that would seem the minimum. You did ask other people apart from him, right?
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
This is brilliant. "Attack London." I mean does even Jazzz think that Mr Bin Laden or his deputies send big messages to people with the words "Attack London" or "Attack Paris" on them? I don't even remember that happening in The Man From UNCLE. I'm surprised they didn't spend all day sitting by the telephone waiting for somebody to call and tell them to play a little solitaire.Jazzz said:
Love of God.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
I suppose it might have happened in The Avengers, which has a marvellous opening sequence (the suggestive champagne bottle, Rigg getting her gun out and then flicking back her hair and so on).
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
mauvais
on reddit or something
I'll tell you what I understand. You find a load of bollocks conspiranoid shite on a website.Jazzz said:
You unthinkingly post it up, word for word, on Urban75 despite it being both fact-free and riddled with holes.
Everyone takes the piss, ripping it apart as thoroughly as can be, despite your floundering and increasingly bizarre posts about your imaginary friends, illegible Urdu newspapers, your grandmother's passport, 1952 pre-war Germany and fuck knows what else. You get so universally hammered that you request your own thread be binned.
You then pretend to have investigated, your sole proof being a photo of a random man in a random office and some dodgy forms.
THEN, obviously having run out of shite ideas for starting shite threads, you post up exactly the same shite again but with the very facts over which you had your arse kicked, altered. The imaginary journalist you claim authored the piece turns up no other online references whatsoever, bar hilariously, Max and Paddy.
WHY DO YOU DO THIS JAZZZ? WHY? I GENUINELY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.
Get Smart? ..Jazzz's mate got the story from an episode of Get Smart 'cept the tapes had K.A.O.S on them.Donna Ferentes said:
So,... 99 or Emma Peele? .... mmmmmm ? I think I'd go with 99 but their both probly 108 years old now so if I want to eat wrinkled up old salty things I'll just buy some Pringles.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
Just noticed...
the original story appeared in Truthseeker magazine--edited last time I was aware of by notorious fantasist bull-shitter & crop-circle hoaxer Matthew Williams. Enough said.
the original story appeared in Truthseeker magazine--edited last time I was aware of by notorious fantasist bull-shitter & crop-circle hoaxer Matthew Williams. Enough said.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
I rather wish I'd started reading up on this conspiraloon stuff years ago because there must be a fine living to be had writing amusing books about these people.
Donna Ferentes said:
Jazzz has given me a revolutionary idea.
Maybe, just maybe, all the world's conspiracy theories are, wait for it, one single giant CONSPIRACY aimed at obscuring from us what's REALLY going on in the world...
Maybe MI5 HQ spends its time doing NOTHING but dreaming up ever more eleaborate theories, hiding the TRUTH from those who have a right to know, and, yes, tinfoil hats are the only thing that wil protect us against the onslaught of the terrible giant killer lizards masquerading as humns, who are intent on world domination by lunchtime.
Jazzz, stop me if I'm getting too near wht you absolutely and incontravertibly KNOW to be the real unvarnished truth. After all, educating these SHEEPLE, brainwashed as they are by the insidious propaganda mind control exercised by 'The Man' is such a challenge, isn't it?
PrinceToad
Visiting this planet
intruiging little article, of course, but more intriguing how the same personages here again doth protest much.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
This is the internets. We're all journalists now. Or something like that.snadge said:
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
*Grabs a bag of nails and some old railway sleepers and hops into his chariot*Pilgrim said:
Now you're in for it.
PrinceToad
Visiting this planet
Taking a cue from mauvais mangue above, I called the Brentwood Hotel. "The Manager" answered and was very reluctant to answer any questions, or give their name, saying "I don't understand" and asking "What is the internet?" I pointed out that Mr. Burki was quoted here, and there were links to other articles where he was quoted, and I wanted to ask if they could confirm or reconcile the statements. He/she (it was hard to tell) was then keen to know the link. S/he seemed particularly animated about the fact that Mr. Burki's photograph was here.
S/he wouldn't say much more, except to assure me that they, or Mr. Burki, would look at the link and correct anything that was wrong.
The police, he/she said, did take away some things in July from the hotel. He/she wasn't sure of the date, or what they took, but said it was "around the 10th" and "the same day as it was found". The notice of seizure that Jazzz posted above is dated the 11th July.
The name does appear to be "Burki", as Jazzz said, I checked that. In the two police documents that Jazzz posted, the name was cited as "Barki" and "Bakri".
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I'm not making any statement about the validity or otherwise of this story. Just since "editor" mentioned "investigation", and mauvais mangue had given us a tip, I thought that a little genuine "investigation" wouldn't hurt. I hope it doesn't.
S/he wouldn't say much more, except to assure me that they, or Mr. Burki, would look at the link and correct anything that was wrong.
The police, he/she said, did take away some things in July from the hotel. He/she wasn't sure of the date, or what they took, but said it was "around the 10th" and "the same day as it was found". The notice of seizure that Jazzz posted above is dated the 11th July.
The name does appear to be "Burki", as Jazzz said, I checked that. In the two police documents that Jazzz posted, the name was cited as "Barki" and "Bakri".
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I'm not making any statement about the validity or otherwise of this story. Just since "editor" mentioned "investigation", and mauvais mangue had given us a tip, I thought that a little genuine "investigation" wouldn't hurt. I hope it doesn't.
PrinceToad
Visiting this planet
The Daily Jang gave me Mr. Malik's number - their correspondent who dealt with this - and he was even more reluctant to speak, but much more professional in dealing with the situation. He confirmed in very general terms that there was an article he wrote at the time, and did not deny that it related to potentially AQ material found in the hotel. He remembered it as being "after 7/7". He referred me to the West Midlands police and Mr. Burki for more information.
editor
hiraethified
I wouldn't be surprised if he's extraordinarily pissed off to see his photo being published here - it certainly sounds like Jazzz didn't ask his permission.PrinceToad said:
In fact, I'd like Jazzz to remove it and host it elsewhere - I've no interest in getting mixed up in all this.
The more I hear about this story the more half-arsed it becomes.
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