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Lock&Light said:
You are incredibly boring to debate with. I have watched you sniping at the right-wingers from America, and have never found it a pretty sight. I would rather vote for Michael Howard than have to endure a 'debate' with you.

And you are an incredibly pathetic inidividual who cannot muster a solid enough defence for his lack of debating skills. And who are these right wingers you speak of? How much attention do you actually pay to what is being said? You don't. You selectivise. It's funny but you never seem to have many problems with other posters, apart from Pickmans.

Ever since I first came to Urban, all you have done is snipe at me. I put it to you that you are incapable of seeing these things in yourself and would much rather project your inadequacies onto others than accept the balme yourself.

Your last line about voting for Michael Howard rather sums up the poor quality of your repartee.
 
I think that although there may well be an element of truth in some of that, you do have a tendency to jump down the throat of people expressing different opinions to yours; just saying that on my own experience.
 
slaar said:
I think that although there may well be an element of truth in some of that, you do have a tendency to jump down the throat of people expressing different opinions to yours; just saying that on my own experience.

Now what have I done to upset you?

No, scratch that. I disagree with you (as you might expect), I only 'go' for those persons with a proven track record of disruption and winding people up. I think you are being unfair tbh.
 
nino_savatte said:
The spelling is so good here that I suspect that much of this text has been plagiarised and represented as your own.

The original source
http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/uk/4441763.stm

You're a plagiarist peebs. You do realise you could get into trouble for that don't you? It's a serious breach of copyright.

oooooooooow

I was to lazy to hit the quote button and to provide a link.

What other laws do you support with such zeal?

You report urnbanties for admiting to drug use in the drug forum as well?
 
pbman said:
oooooooooow

I was to lazy to hit the quote button and to provide a link.

What other laws do you support with such zeal?

You report urnbanties for admiting to drug use in the drug forum as well?

Nice one peebs but I don't represent other people's work as my own...do I?
 
nino_savatte said:
Nice one peebs but I don't represent other people's work as my own...do I?
I've taken you off ignore, it's much more fun laughing at you

You are to take offense at this, you can even feel patronised if you want!
 
Bob_the_lost said:
I've taken you off ignore, it's much more fun laughing at you

You are to take offense at this, you can even feel patronised if you want!

You never had me on 'ignore' at all, did you?
 
nino_savatte said:
Nice one peebs but I don't represent other people's work as my own...do I?

So why do you think i put these in?

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I've used those that for years that way.

Before quote buttons it was common usage on american boards, and i've done it off and on here on urban since i started posting.
 
nino_savatte said:
I only 'go' for those persons with a proven track record of disruption and winding people up.

Ignore is your friend. :)

Think about it. If a posters sole intention is disruption and wind-up and you are not learning anything from them, why bother expending the energy to dignify them with a response?

It is unfortunately true that there are indeed people who's (for whatever reason) sole purpose is to disrupt discussion and debate on certain issues, effectively preventing any sort of meaningful discussion from taking place and ensuring that information that discredits their own ideology gets drowned out by noise.

Their success in their endeavours can be gauged by the number of enraged responses and howls of disbelief at their apparent stupidity their disruption provokes.

I don't think they need any help.

I like ignore. I still read some of the posts that it filters, but there is something about having to click to read it that diffuses it's impact.

It's as if by clicking the 'view this post' link you have taken back control, and because you 'elected' to read the dirge rather than it appearing as interference amongst what you originally wanted to read, you feel less 'violated'. The feeling of anticipation of the total dick-waddery that lies behind the 'view this post' link can be good - but generally no surprises. ;)

Purely because of the sheer amount of information we are exposed to these days, you have to filter it somehow. That might be in the form of something as simple as deciding that Fox News isn't really worth watching (beyond comedy value), or that The Sun isn't the first choice of newspaper for you.

In my own case, it extends as far as filtering the 'output' of the legions of Bushbots that infest online communities, as experience has taught me that their output rarely differs from that of Fox.

This particular filter is only hindered when the output that I want to read is littered with quoted bushbotisms.

Nino, I want to read what you write. Help me out here. ;)
 
A follow up to the first GlobalSecurity.Org article from George Smith:

MORE UK TERROR TRIAL: Evil foiled or more mendacity?
Incredible claims delivered to save face and convince public great evil had been foiled

By Wednesday, the British government and prosecution had at least two days to prepare their spin campaign and they went into high gear. Knocked back by the not guilty verdicts and the implosion of the second terror trial, authorities moved forward swiftly to paint a picture of great deeds and sinister machinations, rather than the prosaic reality of bungling and distortion. This campaign was delivered efficiently to the British press.

'To' the British press? Surely he meant to say 'by'.
 
nino_savatte said:
Now what have I done to upset you?

No, scratch that. I disagree with you (as you might expect), I only 'go' for those persons with a proven track record of disruption and winding people up. I think you are being unfair tbh.
Not my experience personally, that was the wrong word, my observation, I've always debated fine with you. I may well be missing the wind-up bits preceeding your "differences of opinion"
 
Hang on a minute... Nino had every right to point out pee's copying of other peoples work.....just because she has a track record of doing it doesn't mean it should be ignored.

This, and the Mid. East forum are probably the two forums where posters need to be on their game. The fact that "Politics" is a sensitive and emotive issue at the best of times and it is a subject that affects us all in some way lends credence to that.

Just because pee deliberately makes spelling mistakes and acts the fool he should be allowed to get away with it?...
If it were Nino or one of the other regulars who are taken more seriously did it everyone would be over them like a rash.
 
Wess said:
Hang on a minute... Nino had every right to point out pee's copying of other peoples work.....just because she has a track record of doing it doesn't mean it should be ignored.

This, and the Mid. East forum are probably the two forums where posters need to be on their game. The fact that "Politics" is a sensitive and emotive issue at the best of times and it is a subject that affects us all in some way lends credence to that.

Just because pee deliberately makes spelling mistakes and acts the fool he should be allowed to get away with it?...
If it were Nino or one of the other regulars who are taken more seriously did it everyone would be over them like a rash.

read the thread.

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Backatcha Bandit said:
Ignore is your friend. :)

Think about it. If a posters sole intention is disruption and wind-up and you are not learning anything from them, why bother expending the energy to dignify them with a response?

It is unfortunately true that there are indeed people who's (for whatever reason) sole purpose is to disrupt discussion and debate on certain issues, effectively preventing any sort of meaningful discussion from taking place and ensuring that information that discredits their own ideology gets drowned out by noise.

Their success in their endeavours can be gauged by the number of enraged responses and howls of disbelief at their apparent stupidity their disruption provokes.

I don't think they need any help.

I like ignore. I still read some of the posts that it filters, but there is something about having to click to read it that diffuses it's impact.

It's as if by clicking the 'view this post' link you have taken back control, and because you 'elected' to read the dirge rather than it appearing as interference amongst what you originally wanted to read, you feel less 'violated'. The feeling of anticipation of the total dick-waddery that lies behind the 'view this post' link can be good - but generally no surprises. ;)

Purely because of the sheer amount of information we are exposed to these days, you have to filter it somehow. That might be in the form of something as simple as deciding that Fox News isn't really worth watching (beyond comedy value), or that The Sun isn't the first choice of newspaper for you.

In my own case, it extends as far as filtering the 'output' of the legions of Bushbots that infest online communities, as experience has taught me that their output rarely differs from that of Fox.

This particular filter is only hindered when the output that I want to read is littered with quoted bushbotisms.

Nino, I want to read what you write. Help me out here. ;)

Och, I think you're right BB...sad to say. It is the raison d'etre of these folk to anger posters as much as they can; it is small-mindedness mixed with a possible personality disorder, though many of them are incapable of seeing it.

I think you're right about the number of bushbots who seem to infest boards like this, unfortunately some posters seem to regard these types as 'genuine' people, though oddly enough they will never question the nonsense they post nor will they even attempt to debate with them...even if what they say appears to have come straight from Fox or freerepublic! Perhaps it's the disarming jocularity of certain posters that allowsd them to remain; free to disrupt and free to wind up others.

I have wasted a great deal of effort on saddoes - which is a shame, really, because I used to enjoy posting here.
 
BBC producer condemns media's terror coverage

An award-winning senior BBC producer has accused the corporation and the rest of the media of sensationalising the threat of a terror attack on Britain.

Adam Curtis, who made BBC2 series The Power of Nightmares, said: ... "The BBC's Six O'Clock News said [the ricin attack] could have consequences equal or greater to 9/11. It makes you wonder about the media and its relationship to reality."

A spokesman for the BBC said: "We're big fans of Adam's work, but must disagree with his analysis of the Kamel Bourgass coverage on our bulletins. The reports on the Six and other BBC outlets were based on a wide range of sources.(i.e., other media and different branches of the state bf)

Registration required: http://media.guardian.co.uk/bbc/story/0,7521,1460960,00.html
 
nino_savatte said:
I only 'go' for those persons with a proven track record of disruption and winding people up. I think you are being unfair tbh.

Clearly bullshit if one remembers your reactions to my posts. Which in the main are psychoanalysing and insulting me rather than responding to the content of my posts.

A lot of what you throw at others could easily be attributed to you.

Funny that...
 
i was reading a book by a mr icke yesterday. even he discounts the possibilities of faked phone calls, which i found surprising.

then again he's coming at 911 from a different angle.

however, he doesn't discount the existence of aq. but apparently there's a lawyer in san fransisco that says he has proof that obl died in 1998.
 
fubert said:
i was reading a book by a mr icke yesterday. even he discounts the possibilities of faked phone calls, which i found surprising.
So some people here are madder than David Icke?!

:eek: ;)
fubert said:
but apparently there's a lawyer in san fransisco that says he has proof that obl died in 1998.
Who's he then?
 
fela fan said:
Clearly bullshit if one remembers your reactions to my posts. Which in the main are psychoanalysing and insulting me rather than responding to the content of my posts.

A lot of what you throw at others could easily be attributed to you.

Funny that...

Your case is altogether different fela: you are both patronising and completely in love with your own reflection; this is evident in the rhetoric you use.

I remember my early days here on Urban and I remember saying to you that I was going to see my MP about bringing the troops home. On that occasion, you said "let me know how you got on". I did, but you practically ignored me.

I get the feeling that it's all ego with you fela: you love the sound of your own words, even if those words carry little or no substance; all that matters is whether or not they sound good.

Before you start chucking around insults and half-baked analyses, you should look to yourself.
 
nino_savatte said:
This post doesn't make any sense. Mind telling me what you're trying to say or are you making another one of your shitty comments?

Not much point, is there nino, now that you've got me on ignore. :p
 
editor said:
Who's he then?

the lawyers name is stanley hilton. he's brought a lawsuit against various people including george bush and dick cheney based on the idea that there was sufficient intelligence to stop the attacks. the lawsuit has been filed on behalf of the victims of fourteen families.

icke spoke to hilton and he claims that he knows other lawyers who think the 911 story is bollocks.

nothing that hilton said was backed up.
 
fubert said:
icke spoke to hilton and he claims that he knows other lawyers who think the 911 story is bollocks.
So, can I assume it that this yarn can be safely filed under "conspiraloon nonsense"?
 
editor said:
So, can I assume it that this yarn can be safely filed under "conspiraloon nonsense"?

none of the stuff hilton speaks about is supplemented, there's mention of airline employees being under gagging orders for example. icke is normally very careful to request sources for this stuff, in this case there isn't any, just this guys word.

file it under whatever you want. the families of the 911 victims were offered $1.8 million each in compensation, the lawsuit is in my opinion just a lawyer trying to persuade people to get more, and he'll get his 25% of course.
 
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