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I'd also like to point out that comparison with Spain and Ireland is flawed because Ireland created the National Asset Management Agency which has spent around 90Bn Euro on buying back assets at a reduced rate from their fatally crippled banking sector. This sum more than overshadowed anything they were able to save through their deficit reductions attempts that amounted to a drop in the ocean.

The whole left-wing narrative of Ireland going down the drain due to deficit reduction is a simplification of the particular economic situation that country faces. The Spanish economy and Irish economy are not some blank scientific guinea pigs.
 
lib dem activist lol.

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Can't argue with the power of the bar chart and the Riso.
 
Some do, which is why I was pleased to hear Danny Alexender pledge money to tackle this problem. - Added being on 'the fidddle' occurs at both the top and the bottom of the heap.

He did no such thing. If you cut £2 billion pounds from a budget then add £1 billion to it, you end up with a net cut of £1 billion. Infant school-level maths.
 
The National Asset Management Agency is actually one of the initiatives driving the economy into the ground through the liabilities they guarantee of those assets - an increase in the deficit as % of GDP of 2%+ with more to come.
 
Labour's attempts to make it easy for first-time buyers didn't help in terms of inflating the housing market.
the effect of that was nothing compared to a) thatcher's right to buy legislation, with the clauses banning councils from using sale receipts to build new housing, and b) historic underfunding of councils, these two combining to ensure construction of social housing slowed to a virtual standstill.
BOTH of those were down to the Tories, those wonderful people on whose cocks you and your tory-lite mates are so greedily slurping right now.
 
The National Asset Management Agency is actually one of the initiatives driving the economy into the ground through the liabilities they guarantee of those assets - an increase in the deficit as % of GDP of 2%+ with more to come.

Yes I agree it is, that's the point Ireland has other factors negativley affecting it other than cuts in public spending which is why you can't just compare it to Spain as that articule you posted does.
 
Yes I agree it is, that's the point Ireland has other factors negativley affecting it other than cuts in public spending which is why you can't just compare it to Spain as that articule you posted does.

Because the principle has never been proven before, right moon?

Done your homework yet, kiddo?
 
Something your cult is ridiculed across the country for, for dishonesty and inaccuracy at that. your making yourself look more and more a tool by the second.

i might as well post up a picture of a cheap fold up table and some posters and say, see, cant argue with that. humour has its place but in this case its the sign ocf someone whose being comprehensiveely pwned and knows it and is resorting to laaa laaa laaa nobody likes us type 'gags'
 
I've just worked it out! Clegg is the saviour of the left after all - what other possible explanation could there be for his behaviour?

He's deliberately alienating the left wing of his party to make them reluctantly revert to Labour. Milliband will storm to victory in the next elections and Clegg will get a peerage for the selfless sacrifice of his party and reputation. It all makes sense now!
 
Yes I agree it is, that's the point Ireland has other factors negativley affecting it other than cuts in public spending which is why you can't just compare it to Spain as that articule you posted does.
but you and other LDers here have persistently helpd up Ireland, Greece, Spain, as examples of what could happen to the UK if we didn't immediately introduce crippling cuts in public spending, despite the fact that none of those can be compared like-for-like to the UK
 
Who was Nick Clegg talking about?

"They are the party of choice for rich bankers, and no wonder when their major tax policy is to give tax breaks to double millionaires. They even have plans to cut taxes for the banks and raise them for solid British manufacturing companies. They will never change Britain for the better because they are only interested in helping people at the top."
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...t-vote-for-party-again-says-poll-2072183.html

Four in 10 Lib Dem voters would not vote for party again, says poll

The Liberal Democrats have lost the support of almost four in 10 of the people who backed the party in May, according to an opinion poll for The Independent.

More than one in five people who voted for Nick Clegg's party at the general election say they would now vote Labour, the ComRes poll shows. Only 62 per cent of those who voted Liberal Democrat would do so again were another election held today.

The proportion of Liberal Democrat voters who say they would now vote Labour has risen from 15 to 22 per cent since last month, suggesting that Labour is reaping the benefit from the Liberal Democrats' decision to enter a coalition with the Conservatives. A further seven per cent would switch to the Tories.

However, there will be relief among the Liberal Democrat leadership that the party appears to have halted the freefall in its ratings since May, when it won 23 per cent of the votes. The Liberal Democrats had slipped to 16 per cent, but according to ComRes, its support has stabilised and risen to 18 per cent. The Tories, on 38 per cent, are down one point while Labour, on 34 per cent, is up one point. Privately, both Tory and Liberal Democrat MPs fear that Labour will be ahead in the polls by the end of the year as the scale of the public spending cuts to be announced next month sinks in. "It's going to be a bumpy ride, we'll go down before we bounce back," one Liberal Democrat MP predicted. A Tory source added: "I would be amazed if Labour is not ahead by Christmas."

There are signs that men are more opposed than women to the Liberal Democrats' decision to join forces with the Tories. ComRes found that only 15 per cent of men would vote Liberal Democrat in a general election today, compared to 21 per cent of women. Tory support is also unevenly split between the sexes: 41 per cent of men and 34 per cent of women would now vote for David Cameron's party.

Lower income groups appear to be turning their backs on the Liberal Democrats, whose rating is only 12 per cent among the bottom DE social group and 11 per cent among the C2 skilled manual workers.

However, Labour appears to be struggling to stay above the 30 per cent mark among more affluent voters – a finding that will worry Blairites, who accuse some candidates in the party's leadership election of preaching to its core working class vote. Labour now enjoys only 29 per cent support among the top AB social group and 28 among the next C1 group.

David Blunkett, the former Labour cabinet minister, warned that the party will not regain power by taking a left turn. He said: "We've got to win some of the people who voted for other parties – particularly those who went off to the Conservatives – rather than deluding ourselves that there's a comfortable group of people out there who just want a leftish party and want us to be more vigorously left – if that were the truth we would have won in 1983."

He was being interviewed for a BBC Radio 4 programme to be broadcast tonight, Labour Saving Devices, about how the party should fight back after its defeat this year.

It includes some unflattering verdicts on the five candidates running for the leadership. Jon Cruddas, an influential backbencher on the left of the party who is backing David Miliband, said: "None of them is the finished article. I think hopefully they'd all acknowledge that as well because they haven't had the time to do that sort of process of political definition."

Bryan Gould, a former MP who contested the Labour leadership in 1992, suggested that the winner of this month's leadership election will not become prime minister. He told the programme: "I'm sorry to say I somewhat suspect that whoever emerges from the leadership election will be a stand-in leader. And that we will then await a new leader representing a new generation, or a new strand of thought in the party, not tainted by new Labour, not new or old Labour but just Labour. And that new leader will, I think, then have a chance of winning a future general election."

ComRes telephoned a random sample of 1,000 British adults between 3 and 5 September 2010. Data were weighted demographically and by past vote. ComRes is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules. Full tables at www.comres.co.uk
 
Vince Cable, Nick Clegg, Chris Huhne - in fact all lib-dem MPs - not two weeks ago signed a pledge to oppose any and all rises in university tuition fees. This pledge was also contained in their election manifesto and was used prominently in their attempt to appeal to the student vote at the time. This weekend Vince Cable wrote to all party members this making the case for higher tuition fees.
 
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