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Who will win the 2024 US election?

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Rompipalle said:
Right then - what is the answer? If the idea of a woman - or indeed a black woman - as President is unpalatable due to this notion of identity politics being to blame - for what exactly I am not sure.... then what is the solution?

I can't really see that an endless succession of ageing, wealthy, right-wing white men occupying the White House is truly the answer and yet this is what is placed there almost every time.

Why should there not be a woman, or a Muslim, or a Jew, or a Hispanic, or a trans-man as President?
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Why on earth do you think I might be of that opinion??
 
Spymaster said:
You're not listening to what people are telling you.

Nobody is saying that there should not be any of those.
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Well, not on here quite clearly but it's glaringly apparent that those who actually have a vote in the US feel very differently.

They'd rather have a 34x convicted felon in the White House, so there's something very badly wrong in the USA

So I ask again, what is the answer?
 
Wilf said:
Why on earth do you think I might be of that opinion??
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FFS! Did I say you were?

No I did not.

Why is everyone taking this so bloody personally. These are generalised questions - I'm not accusing anyone on here of holding these opinions
 
Rompipalle said:
Right then - what is the answer? If the idea of a woman - or indeed a black woman - as President is unpalatable due to this notion of identity politics being to blame - for what exactly I am not sure.... then what is the solution?

I can't really see that an endless succession of ageing, wealthy, right-wing white men occupying the White House is truly the answer and yet this is what is placed there almost every time.

Why should there not be a woman, or a Muslim, or a Jew, or a Hispanic, or a trans-man as President?
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As others have already pointed out, no one is saying this.

The idea that's being challenged is that anyone should voted for a candidate simply because they're a woman or black, or any other "minority" demographic.
 
Ax^ said:
hmm i don't think most voter thought as much about life under successive neo-liberal regimes as otherwise vote for Business man who is just Neo-Liberalism without the sugar coating and lies

the vote for Trump as they have less money in their pocket and that the main concern.. the Economy was voted for .. not Democracy..

they take a fucking Nazi prick as long as they got money in the back pocket.. people are that shit


Edit to add ** happy thoughts Ax^ Happy Thoughts**
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Yeah, but the US electorate, and UK for that matter, only have variants of parties supporting the neoliberal turn. I suppose Trump particularly appeals to the GOP as he can garner support for a party intent on accelerating neoliberal change. Obviously, if that were obvious to the electorate, the appeal would be minimal so a convincing liar is essential and one that can fabricate solidarity against the sneering liberal establishment (who merely want to preserve neoliberalism) is gold-dust. Add in all the bigotry that can appeal to the basest interests encouraged by the billionaire media and you have the winning formula.
 
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andysays said:
As others have already pointed out, no one is saying this.

The idea that's being challenged is that anyone should voted for a candidate simply because they're a woman or black, or any other "minority" demographic.
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I'd have voted for a stuffed rabbit rather than Trump.

It makes no difference whether Harris was a woman, black, a cardboard cut-out or an alien from Saturn. She would still have been a better option than that corrupt, revolting, incontinent old windbag.

But for reasons which are completely inexplicable - they voted for that.
 
Rompipalle said:
FFS! Did I say you were?

No I did not.

Why is everyone taking this so bloody personally. These are generalised questions - I'm not accusing anyone on here of holding these opinions
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The point is quite a simple one. "She's a black woman" is not a reason, in and of itself, to vote for her. Hence my first reply to you where I facetiously called on us all to support Badenoch.

The US is a polarised and divided society. Voting patterns do vary massively along ethnic lines in ways that are not fully explained by the sharing of economic interests. That's one of the problems here, of course.
 
Rompipalle said:
They'd rather have a 34x convicted felon in the White House,
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I mean I don't like Trump, but it was just some business nonsense, they're all at it. The word 'felon' doesn't carry some weight of its own beyond the court case. Screeching 34 x felon over and over again is just hysterical liberal shit. Would you not vote for someone you otherwise approved of just because of a court conviction?
 
littlebabyjesus said:
The point is quite a simple one. "She's a black woman" is not a reason, in and of itself, to vote for her. Hence my first reply to you where I facetiously called on us all to support Badenoch.

The US is a polarised and divided society. Voting patterns do vary massively along ethnic lines in ways that are not fully explained by the sharing of economic interests. That's one of the problems here, of course.
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Yes, she's a black woman but she is also a more qualified and appropriate person to have as President.

It remains the case though that the US's bigoted and misogynistic society would apparently not permit them to take the step of electing her because she's a black woman - and instead they'd rather have a disgusting lying rapist in charge.

That just says it all.
 
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maomao said:
I mean I don't like Trump, but it was just some business nonsense, they're all at it. The word 'felon' doesn't carry some weight of its own beyond the court case. Screeching 34 x felon over and over again is just hysterical liberal shit. Would you not vote for someone you otherwise approved of just because of a court conviction?
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Screeching?

Seriously?

Piss off.
 
maomao said:
I mean I don't like Trump, but it was just some business nonsense, they're all at it. The word 'felon' doesn't carry some weight of its own beyond the court case. Screeching 34 x felon over and over again is just hysterical liberal shit. Would you not vote for someone you otherwise approved of just because of a court conviction?
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tbf mother fucker attacked the capital building and trying to turn over the last election.. i think you point was if you were still going to vote for the fella after that then nothing was going to change your mind :D
 
Rompipalle said:
It remains the case though that the US's bigoted and misogynistic society would apparently not permit them to take the step of electing her because she's a black woman - and instead they'd rather have a disgusting lying rapist in charge.
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You're making a different point now, tbf. How much of a role did racism and misogyny play in Harris's defeat? That's a fair question. I don't know.
 
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Instead, the hooting, hollering jackasses in the US have elected a malignant narcissist with a list of grievances you could wrap round the globe twice and a shitload of scores to settle before he bothers his capacious arse to do anything constructive for the country.

… and you can forget entirely about anything being done to cool the situation globally either. After all, he has to suck up to all the other toxic, corrupt dictators around the world.
 
I can't see at a quick look around, have the shits won the house as well? Thus controlling all three exec branches. We need one small, small, mercy.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
You're making a different point now, tbf. How much of a role did racism and misogyny play in Harris's defeat? That's a fair question. I don't know.
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Do you think that there is much difference between American people and British people?

The Conservative party has had a black leader, an Asian leader and now four women leaders.

The Labour party has had none of these things... is Labour racist and misogynistic? Or is it simply choosing the best person for the job?
 
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Yes, it’s hard to overstate how much power Trump and his advisers will have. There are no checks and balances. The US populace will experience the full wrath of Trump’s hatred and the full wrath of his advisers’ fanaticism.
 
belboid said:
I can't see at a quick look around, have the shits won the house as well? Thus controlling all three exec branches. We need one small, small, mercy.
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Still a lot left to be decided, but given that the GOP have gained one seat and were the incumbent majority, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
 
belboid said:
I can't see at a quick look around, have the shits won the house as well? Thus controlling all three exec branches. We need one small, small, mercy.
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That's not how this works. The best we can hope for is a storm of ozian proportions whisking trump, vance and their most likely successors off the podium at the inauguration
 
belboid said:
I can't see at a quick look around, have the shits won the house as well? Thus controlling all three exec branches. We need one small, small, mercy.
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The House and the Senate are the legislative branch, not part of the executive.
 
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