Who will win the 2024 US election?

[Shippou-Sensei]

I was feeling really depressed earlier but then I remembered that I don't live in America and while it doesn't mean that I should be happy about this I shouldn't get too depressed. Let's see what happens next. Perhaps people will choose to define themselves against thos rather that tow the line with this.

 

[Rompipalle]

In other shithole news today, Nazi garbage dump Florida embraces state-forced pregnancies:

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It's okay though - women forced to go through with unwanted pregnancies will at least be able to rest easy, knowing that Trump toothpaste will shortly be available to buy at the bargain price of only $15.00 per 30ml tube, so all their little munchkins will have sparkly gnashers, just like the orange f*ckwit.

 

[ID47]

Did you forget that massive convoy from Belarus heading to Kyiv passing through a good chunk of the yellow bit? Reasonable chance that if Putin takes Kyiv Hungary will then take the part of Ukraine that they claim. Diplomats from Czechia and Poland have reported Russia asking them to carve up Ukraine so very likely Hungary has had the same conversation.

Forming a land bridge to Transnistria as a prelude to formal annexation of that region could well lead to occupying Moldova too to prevent them joining the EU and/or NATO, it would be naive to think it would never happen.

He hasn't got the cash, the soldiers or the equipment to do that anymore. Let alone the support of his people.

 

[ID47]

Well, and Harris?

Clearly the lesser of two evils. And doubt me when I write two evils, there is no real democratic choice in that nation.

 

[Ax^]

In other shithole news today, Nazi garbage dump Florida embraces state-forced pregnancies:

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tbf anyone living in Florida has signed up to a be a GTA Character at this stage

 

[Rimbaud]

Guffaw:

The thought of a Trump presidency is eating me alive | Francine Prose

I look the way people do outside the intensive care unit, as they wait to learn whether a friend will survive. Our friend, in this case, is democracy, says Francine Prose, a former president of PEN American Center

www.theguardian.com

Having such faith in the US Democrats is simply dumbfounding. Get back to Reddit!

The article you posted has nothing to do with faith in US Democrats and I see nothing funny about the threat to democracy you fascist swine.

 

[Ax^]

anyways got my Deftone tickets this morning so the rest of the states can kiss my ass

 

[Rompipalle]

And I think we still disagree here. 120 years of the Labour Party in the UK shows that the strategy of getting working class representation changed the representatives not the power structures.

I still believe that it's not unreasonable that black working class men might have more in common with a black woman - regardless of her socio-economic class or her educational background/career - than a rich white bloke who has never got his hands dirty in his entire life and who has always had everything handed to him on a plate.

At least Harris got to where she is by her own academics achievements and efforts.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I was feeling really depressed earlier but then I remembered that I don't live in America and while it doesn't mean that I should be happy about this I shouldn't get too depressed. Let's see what happens next. Perhaps people will choose to define themselves against thos rather that tow the line with this.

Yeah, I guess at some point we've all got to come to terms with the fact that the US is just fucked, an empire in decline. Most of the people who live there seem to want it to be an NK-style Absolutist Monarchy that worships a Pedo Rapist Oompa Loompa. It's baffling and sad, but I guess acceptance of that fact will allow us all to move on and forget about it.

 

[The39thStep]

These two get an estimated £70k a month for their reputation laundering podcasts, plus the sell out live tours. Absolute clueless centrist twaddle excuse for analysis.



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[ID47]

Yes, in the sense that this election is mainly driven by perceptions about leftist globalist elites, mistrust, the 'build back better', 'you'll own nothing and be happy' type/Bill Gates buying farms to control our food, new forms of censorship, etc, vibe - just a chilling high-tech dystopia - at the very least existing in the minds and fears of many people.

So in response to this perception the right got themselves some billionaires, Trump, Musk and co and big influencers on their side. It's now our elites versus your elites; our billionaires vs your billionaires; and a perceived battle of nationalism vs globalism.

I go back far enough to know when football first became 'my multimillionaire owner versus your multimillionaire owner'. I don't know if it's a great analogy but it feels as though there was a globalist switch over with football - and coincided with my not renewing my season ticket anymore.

Says it all:

 

[Rompipalle]

 

[Wilf]

At least he doesn't have the maths to overturn the 22nd Amendment (2 term limit). Beyond that, I'm struggling.

 

[ID47]

Yeah, I guess at some point we've all got to come to terms with the fact that the US is just fucked, an empire in decline. Most of the people who live there seem to want it to be an NK-style Absolutist Monarchy that worships a Pedo Rapist Oompa Loompa. It's baffling and sad, but I guess acceptance of that fact will allow us all to move on and forget about it.

To be expected really it's only 50/60 years out of segregation and anti miscegenation laws.

 

[krtek a houby]

To be expected really it's only 50/60 years out of segregation and anti miscegenation laws.

A young "democracy" when you think about it.

 

[brogdale]

Not much joy out there in social media land, but this made me giggle...

 

[Ax^]

At least he doesn't have the maths to overturn the 22nd Amendment (2 term limit). Beyond that, I'm struggling.

oh give him time he only just got re elected.. he'll work on it
expect a crisis of some sort to raise it head in about 2 years to start laying the ground work for him pulling an FDR

 

[Ax^]

Yes, in the sense that this election is mainly driven by perceptions about leftist globalist elites, mistrust, the 'build back better', 'you'll own nothing and be happy' type/Bill Gates buying farms to control our food, new forms of censorship, etc, vibe - just a chilling high-tech dystopia - at the very least existing in the minds and fears of many people.

So in response to this perception the right got themselves some billionaires, Trump, Musk and co and big influencers on their side. It's now our elites versus your elites; our billionaires vs your billionaires; and a perceived battle of nationalism vs globalism.

I go back far enough to know when football first became 'my multimillionaire owner versus your multimillionaire owner'. I don't know if it's a great analogy but it feels as though there was a globalist switch over with football - and coincided with my not renewing my season ticket anymore.

so you saying " trickle down economics"

jesus and people are saying we should not call the right Thick as Shit
"our Billionaires" get to fuck

 

[Combustible]

A lot will be made by right wing Democrats about polling which shows nearly that half of Americans thought that Harris is 'too liberal'. But Biden's economic position was relatively to the 'left' of Harris, even more so before the 2020 election where he also wasn't afraid to campaign on it. Harris was also perceived as being more liberal than Sanders so it's worth thinking about what people mean when they say it. Part of it is undoubtedly because she is a woman with brown skin but there is obviously something more about archetypal (neo)-liberal figures who come offering little that makes them perfect foil for a well funded culture war.

 

[krtek a houby]

No, Reddit is the place for circlejerks. Unless U75 policy has changed

You've been here for all of 5 minutes. Shut up and quit the schoolyard posturing.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Not much joy out there in social media land, but this made me giggle...

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Yeah, tbh, this is one of the (to my eyes) cognitive dissonances I want to understand.

If they don't see Trump and Musk as 'elites', just what is their definition?

Again, I'm sure most people won't actually be working to a conscious definition themselves, but I feel like it would at least be possible to try and parse some kind of profile based on what someone says about who they see as 'elites'. They clearly perceive some kind of difference, as seemingly contradictory as it may appear to many of us.

 

[Rompipalle]

Janey Godley was completely right though, wasn't she?

 

[danny la rouge]

I still believe that it's not unreasonable that black working class men might have more in common with a black woman - regardless of her socio-economic class or her educational background/career - than a rich white bloke who has never got his hands dirty in his entire life and who has always had everything handed to him on a plate.

At least Harris got to where she is by her own academics achievements and efforts.

I mean, I think you’re missing a very important part of the picture if you say that. It’s a part that I’ve long argued liberal identity politics misses.

 

[Ax^]

Again, I'm sure most people won't actually be working to a conscious definition themselves, but I feel like it would at least be possible to try and parse some kind of profile based on what someone says about who they see as 'elites'. They clearly perceive some kind of difference, as seemingly contradictory as it may appear to many of us.

should not really laugh at america to hard.. over here in england everybody keep voting for rich white cunts who went to Oxford like it will make a change for working people

sighs

 

[editor]

Says it all:

Fuck Paddy Power and their shit adverts.

 

[Wilf]

I believe you’re taking me the opposite way to the one I intend.

My point is that expecting black people to vote according to race is racist.

I think that's certainly true. However, seeing a shift away from the Dems among Black and other groups of voters is significant.

Edit, though I should probably absorb the figures on the ethnic breakdown of the voted quoted upthread before making such claims.

 

[Weller]

Well after having a lie in after a long night watching all this and following here and going to bed at 4am this still wasnt a headline I was expecting to see ever really its all truely depressing to even think about what happens next now

 

[danny la rouge]

I think that's certainly true. However, seeing a shift away from the Dems among Black and other groups of voters is significant.

Yep. It is.

 

[danny la rouge]

Janey Godley was completely right though, wasn't she?

About Trump? Yes, her placard was correct.

 

[ID47]

Fuck Paddy Power and their shit adverts.

Thanks for your succinct and ever to the point input, no one is supporting paddy power here.