Wankers of the World (well Bulmental, Lowkey, Galloway and Williamson) Unite for No2NATO Conference, London 25 Feb. Urban75 are invited to attend.

[LDC]

just transphobia, during the Batley and Spen by elelection, as it's a bigotry enjoyed by his mate Steve Bannon.

Yeah, he's a fucking horror with that stuff. As well as plenty of other issues that target minorities.

 

[RD2003]

Wait a minute, I thought it was a lefty bubble. and why are you bothered if people organise against these freaks? Just sit back and do your usual cynical I have seen it all thing. don’t tell me you’re not bothered, you’ve posted several times on this thread already.

I'm in the leftie bubble as well. We all are, and we can't burst it.

 

[xenon]

Anyway I blame Tim obviously.

 

[The39thStep]

I’d pay 80p to see a six a side tag team fight between the loons from No2Nato and the loons from NAFO . Obviously couldn’t be in the church but perhaps the car park ?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

So many reactionary apologists for brutishness in one location just asking to to be challenged. I'm booking my place, even though it's going to cost me 80p with Eventbright. I'm also contacting St Pancras New Church to question their booking policy

No2Nato Conference registration open - Workers Party of Britain

The UK is the second biggest contributor to Nato. Last year we paid £60 BILLION towards it. For what? We believe Britain would be safer and wealthier outside of Nato. The danger of world war has never been greater. If the ruling class is unchallenged, it could lead to utter catastrophe..

workerspartybritain.org

The likes of Galloway and Williamson are fucking awful, but as has been pointed out the'yre on the fringes and the politics of the pro-NATO left etc is fucking awful aswell. If people want to organise against this or not I really don't care either way.

 

[RD2003]

I don't think anyone has called for a ban on them on here though have they? People are just identifying them as politically problematic/the enemy, and suggested disrupting their talk or getting the venue to cancel them. Which given their positions is pretty mild. Strikes me as very odd that choose to basically defend them, and by default their politics, on this and similar issues. Did you have the same position with all the Stop the War pro-Assad stuff as well?

Who are they problematic for, and what effect does it have in the real world?

I am blissfully unaware of the politics of STW, and nothing untoward has happened as a result. Clearly, though, as the weapons continue to flow into Ukraine and the death toll mounts, Galloway and STW are succesful beyond measure.

 

[Ax^]

I’d pay 80p to see a six a side tag team fight between the loons from No2Nato and the loons from NAFO . Obviously couldn’t be in the church but perhaps the car park ?

tbf think Galloway is more of a lover than a fighter

 

[steeplejack]

I rarely take any notice of Galloway, but last time i looked he wasn't advocating racism.

It depends on whether you think today's left has any relevance in the real world, or at least on this particular issue. Some would say that a pro-NATO stance, whether explicity stated or implied, is dragging sections of the left into right wing positions.

He's not been averse to racist dogwhistling in recent years (for context this was a twitter spat with Humza Yousuf, an SNP minister of Pakistani / Kenyan origin)

A thoroughly contemptible piece of shit, is Galloway.

 

[tim]

They don’t refuse oats; they make them!

The infamous oat grinders are cultural appropriators with no actual link with the Society of Friends.

 

[The39thStep]

tbf think Galloway is more of a lover than a fighter

He could dress up in his cat suit and one of the NAFOs could dress up as a cuddly dog

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Not sure I would pay 80p to see Gorgeous George TBH.

i saw him for nothing a few years ago and that was too much!

 

[Ax^]

He could dress up in his cat suit and one of the NAFOs could dress up as a cuddly dog

don't underestimate doge

 

[Pickman's model]

don't underestimate doge

That's not a doge

 

[strung out]

No I don't. But the Galloway lot are not advocating the persecution of immigrants and minorities.

They'd much rather the immigrants and minorities are persecuted in their own countries.

 

[Ax^]

That's not a doge

 

[steeplejack]

Aren't NAFOFellas dodgy wankers as well?

 

[LDC]

Aren't NAFOFellas dodgy wankers as well?

They're a massive wide mix of types more like a loose movement rather than being a coherent group or collective, plus their supporters which is an even wider group. Most probably haven't even met irl. But also they're not known red brown types organising a conference in London and with a history of being politically dodgy, so bit irrelevant to this discussion tbh.

 

[existentialist]

Aren't NAFOFellas dodgy wankers as well?

I bloody well hope so! I wouldn't have joined, otherwise.

 

[steeplejack]

Thanks for the insights.

 

[spitfire]

 

[LDC]

Tyranny....

A quick look at Galloway's Twitter is funny, and look what the algorithm recommends to me....

 

[spitfire]

...tyranny...they've all got it tyranny.

Clare Daly and Mick Wallace are cunts of the highest order.

 

[ska invita]

I see very little evidence of that. The majority of people are supportive of Ukraine without glorifying the notion of war.

 

[spitfire]

Badly photoshopped cartoon dogs not exactly glorification in my book but we obviously have different opinions on this.

edit: and preferable to the Jeremy Clarkson original.

 

[ska invita]

Badly photoshopped cartoon dogs not exactly glorification in my book but we obviously have different opinions on this.

edit: and preferable to the Jeremy Clarkson original.

maybe its me not seeing it right, maybe theres an antimlitarist message in the smiling dog with a bazooka meme thats passing me by

 

[teuchter]

maybe its me not seeing it right, maybe theres an antimlitarist message in the smiling dog with a bazooka meme thats passing me by

No, it's not just you.

 

[Supine]

I don’t think it’s worth seeking great political insight from people who create dog meme’s on the internet

 

[littlebabyjesus]

hmmm.

Don't like this no-platform type activism. Let them speak. What's to be afraid of?

And when there's a meeting to discuss how to get rid of the monarchy, say, or how to redo democracy in the UK by getting rid of the Houses of Parliament, or whatever, will some other activists with different views get that meeting cancelled?

Default position should be 'let them speak' unless you have a very very good reason not to.

 

[andysays]

hmmm.

Don't like this no-platform type activism. Let them speak. What's to be afraid of?

And when there's a meeting to discuss how to get rid of the monarchy, say, or how to redo democracy in the UK by getting rid of the Houses of Parliament, or whatever, will some other activists with different views get that meeting cancelled?

Default position should be 'let them speak' unless you have a very very good reason not to.

If you're not already aware of the very very good reason why people are at the least uncomfortable about letting these people organise, you clearly haven't been paying attention.

 

[LDC]

hmmm.

Don't like this no-platform type activism. Let them speak. What's to be afraid of?

And when there's a meeting to discuss how to get rid of the monarchy, say, or how to redo democracy in the UK by getting rid of the Houses of Parliament, or whatever, will some other activists with different views get that meeting cancelled?

Default position should be 'let them speak' unless you have a very very good reason not to.

Have you just joined these boards (the world?) and missed the decades of discussion about this topic?