Voter suppression (UK)

[teqniq]

Not content with ID for people who actually turn up they now want to extend it to postal and proxy votes:

Tories plan to force ID checks for postal and proxy votes in future elections

Despite calls to suspend the controversial in-person voter ID - after thousands were turned away at the May election - the Government has announced new measures

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[platinumsage]

MP Christian Wakeford should probably look up the word "gerrymandering" in a dictionary.

 

[newme]

How's voter Id for postal going to work, they gonna man the post boxes lol?

 

[teqniq]

I see it actually appertains to redrawing electoral boundaries to confer unfair advantage (I did not actually know that thanks). However in this particular context it was Mogg who first used the word incorrectly when he admitted that the attempt to gerrymander the vote by introducing ID in favour of the vermin had backfired.

 

[newme]

Didn't even get to vote this year at all. Apparently we have a new mayor, I didn't know we had one at all

 

[Louis MacNeice]

How's voter Id for postal going to work, they gonna man the post boxes lol?

Royal Mail will do it..we've got nothing else on.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Sasaferrato]

More data that, inevitably, underestimates the gross effect of the vermin's VS

So, in summary, the figures for those who did not vote were statistically insignificant.

 

[B.I.G]

So, in summary, the figures for those who did not vote were statistically insignificant.

Only if you ignore the people that were turned away by the “Greeters” and therefore weren’t recorded.

On the ball as always I see!

 

[brogdale]

So, in summary, the figures for those who did not vote were statistically insignificant.

Surprised that you, of all posters on here, should be so untroubled by citizens losing their right to engage with the democratic process.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Only if you ignore the people that were turned away by the “Greeters” and therefore weren’t recorded.

On the ball as always I see!

and the people who didn't go at all

 

[B.I.G]

and the people who didn't go at all

Indeed!

 

[brogdale]

Interim Electoral Commission report being reported in Guardian.

 

[teqniq]

This will tick most of the boxes for the vermin.

 

[brogdale]

This will tick most of the boxes for the vermin.

Working well.

 

[brogdale]

First time I've seen a number for the "greeters" that were deliberately deployed to reduce the recorded number of turn-aways; so 40%, then. That seems higher than I thought thy were going to do; interesting.

 

[teqniq]

Voter ID rules denied at least 14,000 people the chance to vote - Good Law Project

goodlawproject.org

 

[brogdale]

Losses might give the vermin some reason to re-address this nonsense:

 

[a_chap]

The Tories do, of course, have a get-out for their imminent losses.

"We'd have won if only our voters hadn't been kept away by, er... voter ID."

 

[brogdale]

From last week's LRB; Margaret makes a good point.
With photo ID apparently ensuring the integrity of the vote why do ballot papers still need to be numbered?

 

[brogdale]

New APPG No shit Sherlock report in Guardian article:

 

[andysays]

New report from Local Government Information Unit anticipates serious problems with voter ID

Voter ID: General election could face serious disruption - survey​

Voter ID could cause "serious disruption" to the general election, a local government think-tank has said. Next year will see the first general election where all voters will have to show a valid form of voter photo ID. The government claims the system will crack down on potential voter fraud. But electoral administrators surveyed by the Local Government Information Unit (LGIU) warned they will not have enough staff to implement the new rules, without more funding.

 

[brogdale]

Guardian piece on IPPR report on 'Voter inequality/turnout gap' with not one reference to the deliberate suppression of Voter photo ID.

 

[teqniq]

More dodgy shit from the vermin:

Tories are 'rigging General Election rules' as voting watchdog slams reform plot

The independent Electoral Commission slammed the plans, comparing the proposals to a cricket team “telling the umpire how to enforce the rules of the game”

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[StoneRoad]

Even their gerrymandering of boundaries is unlikely to prevent the vermin losing a whole swathe of seats [imo]. At least that's been the opinion of Electoral Calculus for quite some time.

I've probably already said that I've avoided the photo ID bit by getting a postal vote & I ticked the box for "until I tell you otherwise"

 

[Sasaferrato]

Surprised that you, of all posters on here, should be so untroubled by citizens losing their right to engage with the democratic process.

No one will lose their right to vote. A document is issued free of charge for those who don't have one of the other identifying documents.

What is more concerning from those figures shown, not one was over 40% turnout.

If people really are that apathetic about voting, I really can't see lack of a document being a significant issue.

In general though, what a waste of time and effort.

 

[StoneRoad]

That made me think ---

Since I achieved voting age, I am pretty sure I've never missed a general election nor a referendum, maybe missed just one or two local / council / parish elections. I even participated in the PCC votes.
Sadly, I don't think my choice made much difference in any of them.

But I do consider it important to cast my vote - even if it's for someone other than the candidate that is "first past the post" --- personally, I think that proportional representation should be discussed again, there are some areas with very disparate populations besides the adherents to the party of the usual winner of seats.

 

[teqniq]

According to Richard Murphy, 7 million may be disenfranchised:

Can we really claim to be a democracy when the government very clearly does not care if people can vote?

This report was published last Thursday, but I missed it then and it is no less relevant this morning: As many as eight million people face being disenfranchised at the next election due to an electoral registration system which is neither effective nor efficient, says the cross-party Levelling...

www.taxresearch.org.uk

 

[brogdale]

Vermin's recently appointed place-man at the Electoral Commission sees no problems with photo ID.

As usual, no mention whatsoever of the 'invisible' effect of barriers to voting that prevent people even turning up.

 

[StoneRoad]

oh dear ...

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID

The former prime minister returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

tbh, I would encourage people to get postal votes arranged in time for the next GE, although I've got several alternatives which are on the acceptable list.

My travels around the UK over the past few days saw a real shortage of the usual vermin support placards - but a surprising amount for the Greens.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

No one will lose their right to vote. A document is issued free of charge for those who don't have one of the other identifying documents.

Free?

Snappy Snaps doing free photos, Royal Mail letting you post the application for free - yeah?