'Vegan diets are healthier and safer for dogs' says The Guardian about University of Winchester survey

[xenon]

And so it starts. So fucking predicable.

It’s the obvious question because why would a vegan have a pet dog.
Anyway if you want to celebrate another victory for processed food this time for pets. Go ahead. Yeah dogs can live off vegan food highly processed fortified with vitamins. Wow. Bring it on.


Home cooking for Fido. Just buy a bag of veggies and make a stew.

 

[scifisam]

I must admit that I don’t have a pet. But I have a cat that roams onto one of my worksites that meows me to submission and so I feed.
Are you saying that I should prepare it some vegan diet rather than the cat food sold at local shops?

Considering nobody is saying that CATS should be fed a vegan diet, and this is a thread about DOGS, no.

But if you are going to feed the cat, avoid giving it anything with lactose in (hard cheese is probably OK and tiny amounts of butter are also fine, but the traditional whole bowls of cream will give it diarrhoea - a few cats are fine with lactose, but it's unusual, and you don't know this cat), and don't give it anything with lots of onions in, like leftover stew - usually cats would reject that anyway, but a very hungry cat might not.

If it seems to be an owned cat then it's best not to feed it, really.

 

[two sheds]

It’s the obvious question because why would a vegan have a pet dog.

No I don't understand this. Why would someone want a pet dog?

 

[scifisam]

It’s the obvious question because why would a vegan have a pet dog.
Anyway if you want to celebrate another victory for processed food this time for pets. Go ahead. Yeah dogs can live off vegan food highly processed fortified with vitamins. Wow. Bring it on.


Home cooking for Fido. Just buy a bag of veggies and make a stew.

Why is it obvious? There's nothing about being vegan that means you shouldn't have a dog.

 

[two sheds]

Why is it obvious? There's nothing about being vegan that means you shouldn't have a dog.

Vegans shouldn't eat dogs

 

[Ax^]

why would someone want a kid if it was going to inconvenience your life

 

[two sheds]

Apologies to anyone I'm having a go at I've been at the rum

 

[two sheds]

why would someone want a kid if it was going to inconvenience your life

You shouldn't eat children either

 

[Ax^]

but we are baby eating anarchists

 

[two sheds]

baby and dog eating anarchists

 

[Ax^]

baby and dog hyponotising and then eating anarchists

never forget

 

[scifisam]

You shouldn't eat children either

TBF it's the last line that's more concerning:

tbf a dog or any pet should be a inconvenience

it a self selected issue in your life

if you trying to prove a point by feed it as you would like as you don't like veg or meat


they maybe you should not have a pet


same with fucking kids

(Just in case: no genuine accusation is intended or implied)

 

[two sheds]

I noticed that too, I didn't like to say

 

[xenon]

No I don't understand this. Why would someone want a pet dog?

A vegan, ethical vegan. It's a fair questionDon't play dum. JimW has given a good answer.

 

[Ax^]

TBF it's the last line that's more concerning:




(Just in case: no genuine accusation is intended or implied)

don't have kids so its not a worry

 

[two sheds]

A vegan, ethical vegan. It's a fair questionDon't play dum. JimW has given a good answer.

An ethical vegan surely doesn't eat meat themselves. Is it part of their beliefs that animals don't eat meat?

Not seen JimW's answer which post was that?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The amount of trolling on this thread is really quite precious.

 

[Riklet]

What a load of vegan propoganda bullshit. If dogs did better off a vegan diet they would be eating.... a vegan diet.

 

[xenon]

Batersea Dogs home should use the unwanted ones for food TBF. It's the sustainable way.

 

[scifisam]

A vegan, ethical vegan. It's a fair questionDon't play dum. JimW has given a good answer.

It's not a fair question. Ethical vegans are more likely to avoid breeders (lots of meat-eaters do too, of course), but that doesn't mean they don't want to have a pet for all the reasons other people want to have pets. I mean, they're vegans, not Vulcans.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Here's what the multivits I buy contain:

Spoiler

Typical Values	%RI*	Each tablet provides
Vitamin A	100	800µg RE
Vitamin D	200	10.00µg
Vitamin E	100	12.0mg α-TE
Vitamin K	100	75.0µg
Thiamin (Vitamin B1)	100	1.10mg
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2)	100	1.40mg
Niacin	100	16.0mg NE
Pantothenic acid	100	6.0mg
Vitamin B6	100	1.40mg
Folic Acid	100	200µg
Vitamin B12	100	2.50µg
Biotin	100	50.0µg
Vitamin C	100	80mg
Calcium	25	200mg
Magnesium	27	100.0mg
Iron	100	14.0mg
Copper	100	1.00mg
Iodine	100	150.0µg
Zinc	100	10.0mg
Manganese	100	2.0mg
Selenium	100	55.0µg
Chromium	100	40µg
Molybdenum	100	50.0µg
Boron	-	0.5mg

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I suspect the main reasons for that have little to do with their diet.

TBH, your list and the Centrum vitamin list don't seem that different to me.

 

[two sheds]

And people who keep snakes are hypocritical if they themselves don't eat dead mice?

/not quite sure I've got this.

 

[Calamity1971]

And people who keep snakes are hypocritical if they themselves don't eat dead mice?

/not quite sure I've got this.

The rum suits you.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

It's not a fair question. Ethical vegans are more likely to avoid breeders (lots of meat-eaters do too, of course), but that doesn't mean they don't want to have a pet for all the reasons other people want to have pets. I mean, they're vegans, not Vulcans.

Spock had a Sehlot* as a boy. And with that, my nerd credentials have been renewed for another year.

* giant teddy bears with fangs.

 

[xenon]

An ethical vegan surely doesn't eat meat themselves. Is it part of their beliefs that animals don't eat meat?

Not seen JimW's answer which post was that?

Not sure back on page previous I think. But don't be daft though, you can see it's a fair question. Here I am a vegan, not wanting to exploit animals but oh a pet dog would be lovely.

I'm going a bit route 1 with the question and no problem with his answer TBF. But you see where I'm coming from?

I only eat animals someone else has killed btw, meat is not murder. Doesn't hold much water does it?

 

[Ax^]

It's not a fair question. Ethical vegans are more likely to avoid breeders (lots of meat-eaters do too, of course), but that doesn't mean they don't want to have a pet for all the reasons other people want to have pets. I mean, they're vegans, not Vulcans.

get a fucking rabbit or rehome a unwanted bunnie for fuck sake if your worried about the animals diet

*shakes foot at the sky

 

[keybored]

The amount of trolling on this thread is really quite precious.

That's all these threads ever are.

 

[xenon]

It's not a fair question. Ethical vegans are more likely to avoid breeders (lots of meat-eaters do too, of course), but that doesn't mean they don't want to have a pet for all the reasons other people want to have pets. I mean, they're vegans, not Vulcans.

No. It's just drawing a line where people want to draw a line to suit their predilictions. Flexible moral outlook. Like everyone. Yet some vegans. love telling you about the vegan things, their flimsy moral framework and get the hump when it's pointed out.

I'm trolling a bit but fuck it.

 

[xenon]

Get a pet beetle. Oh but not flufffieee....

 

[two sheds]

Think you must be thinking of someone else xenon - the most relevant post I can see from JimW is:

I've got a dog because it was a homeless stray a friend took in then his new landlord wouldn't let him keep it. Don't feed it a vegan diet though.

which is interesting and sensitive but not quite relevant to our discussion.