littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
First they came for the racists, and I did not speak out...
US election 2020 thread
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they don't think it's a fascist coup though do they - they think what's happening now is a fascist/communist coup.
fuck off with this.
bimble
floofy
This is really interesting stuff. How enormous the betting on trump was, and how irrational.
slate.com
How Offshore Oddsmakers Made a Killing off Gullible Trump Supporters
The emotions and strategies behind record-setting bets on a MAGA victory that never came.
slate.com
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
TBF, when Marty1 posted odds on Trump over turning the result, on here, I did encourage him to go ahead with a bet, and I don't feel crap for doing that.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Trump cultists so convinced by their cause that they will wager huge sums of money on it aren't harmless marks. They're fucking dangerous extremists. I'm not convinced them being relieved of some of their money is necessarily a bad thing. Less disposable income with which to buy guns and ammunition.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This is where your criticism of betfair is limited at best, though. Yes, they're taking their commission and so profiting from it, but most of the profit in this instance is made by non-Trumpists betting against the Trumpists. I have no sympathy whatever for the Trumpists transferring their wealth to their political enemies in this way.
And, as I said, it's not their kids' fault, or their dependents fault... those are the ones who are going to suffer.
I mean I guess their kids will probably end up supporting trump too so.... but if you start thinking that way then really you just end up fucking society up totally. Which come to think of it might be why we are in the position we are now; people think they are hating individuals, but they're actualy hating whole communities. And so of course those communities are going to hate them back.
I mean I guess their kids will probably end up supporting trump too so.... but if you start thinking that way then really you just end up fucking society up totally. Which come to think of it might be why we are in the position we are now; people think they are hating individuals, but they're actualy hating whole communities. And so of course those communities are going to hate them back.
strung out
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It's not necessarily non-Trumpists betting against Trumpists though, is it? It's opportunists from all different political hues, who were politically engaged enough to know which way things were going to go, and who had enough capital to make a 10% gain off the deluded victims worthwhile. There will be Trumpists and all kinds of other unsavoury people in amongst all that.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Anyone who can afford to drop a 4 or 5 figure sum on the outcome of the US Election doesn't really fit the profile of the socially problematic gambler i.e. the kind of person who lets his family go hungry/face eviction etc in order to feed his addiction.
They strike me as people who could probably afford to lose that money but were hoping to make large profits out of people even less principled (and even dafter) than they are. Well they lost but you can bet (pun intended) they wouldn't be whinging if they had won.
My opinion is you pays your money and you takes your chance, They lost but surely they knew the risk of that happening, they're gamblers right? I don't think anyone put a gun to their heads and forced them.
I thought all gambling debts were 'gentlemen's agreements' unless that has changed so I can't see them getting anywhere in court with it.
Personally has to taking action against gambling firms well so long as they're stopped from 'sending the boys round' I'm not convinced of any argument for banning them. Personally I can't do it, I feel cheated by the time I get to putting more the second or third 10p in the slot machine but plenty of other folks do enjoy it and who I am to say they can't.
They strike me as people who could probably afford to lose that money but were hoping to make large profits out of people even less principled (and even dafter) than they are. Well they lost but you can bet (pun intended) they wouldn't be whinging if they had won.
My opinion is you pays your money and you takes your chance, They lost but surely they knew the risk of that happening, they're gamblers right? I don't think anyone put a gun to their heads and forced them.
I thought all gambling debts were 'gentlemen's agreements' unless that has changed so I can't see them getting anywhere in court with it.
Personally has to taking action against gambling firms well so long as they're stopped from 'sending the boys round' I'm not convinced of any argument for banning them. Personally I can't do it, I feel cheated by the time I get to putting more the second or third 10p in the slot machine but plenty of other folks do enjoy it and who I am to say they can't.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
and yet, the markets have gone straight up since biden won.
maybe those assholes should show a little gratitude.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Certainty on the most projected Electoral College votes, as quoted in post 10247. Which is exactly what they did. Nothing to do with tanks.
I don't know how you could possibly be in any position to make that judgement. The description the woman in the Daily Beast article who's a hundred grand down gives about how she kept putting more and more money on it sounds very similar to accounts I've read from gambling addicts though.
She sounds like a dick, there's no question there. And while I think gambling is corrosive and all bookmakers should be shot, if she'd bet all that money before the election - or even on election night when the result was in question - I probably wouldn't care too much. But to allow bets to be taken for weeks after the result was clear is grossly immoral - it's just money for nothing for betfair, and for the people picking up the bets on the other side.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A good sniper rifle, along the lines of a Barrett 82 .50 will cost a bit north of $8k. A semi-auto assault rifle much less. The sort of people who can afford to chuck away money on trump will surely be able to spaff eight grand on a rifle that can kill from a mile away or a rack full of assault rifles at a grand a throw.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
update
www.cnn.com
Six men involved in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were indicted Wednesday on a federal kidnapping conspiracy charge.
Daniel Harris, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Adam Fox and Brandon Caserta pleaded not guilty to the indictment in proceedings on Thursday. Each of the defendants has been in custody since being arrested in October, when the plot was thwarted.
6 men indicted on federal charges in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
Six men involved in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were indicted Wednesday on a federal kidnapping conspiracy charge.
www.cnn.com
Six men involved in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were indicted Wednesday on a federal kidnapping conspiracy charge.
Daniel Harris, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Adam Fox and Brandon Caserta pleaded not guilty to the indictment in proceedings on Thursday. Each of the defendants has been in custody since being arrested in October, when the plot was thwarted.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
update
6 men indicted on federal charges in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
Six men involved in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were indicted Wednesday on a federal kidnapping conspiracy charge.
Six men involved in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were indicted Wednesday on a federal kidnapping conspiracy charge.
Daniel Harris, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Adam Fox and Brandon Caserta pleaded not guilty to the indictment in proceedings on Thursday. Each of the defendants has been in custody since being arrested in October, when the plot was thwarted.
Have you noticed that a lot of these leaders getting threats are women? I noticed that the Dodge City, Kansas mayor resigned recently because of threats by anti-maskers. She and her family were both threatened to the point where she was literally run out of Dodge:
Where I live, the mayor is also female and supports a mask mandate. She's also received threats and is the subject of a recall petition. I don't think it will be successful, but it shows how widespread the threats against public officials are over a pretty minor issue.
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Tankus
Amused OAP
Bombshell report: Jared Kushner set up shell company that diverted campaign cash to Trump family members
Jared Kushner helped set up a shell company that secretly paid President Donald Trump's family members and spent nearly half of his 2020 campaign's funds.The president's son-in-law and White House senior adviser directed his sister-in-law Lara Trump, Vice President Mike Pence's nephew John Pence...
www.rawstory.com
If only they worked as hard in running the country as they did at grifting
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I hate gambling. Let me start with that. I would have gambling heavily regulated (totally banning it doesn't work - just look at India), and advertising totally banned. It's an area in which I think state intervention is fully justified.
But having said that, reckless gamblers who are also disgusting racist cunts, which these people are, let's not kid ourselves, why else would the racist dogwhistles be resonating so strongly?, are low down in my list of concerns. They're around the same level as people spending money they can't afford to lose buying up bitcoin. Repulsive views combining with greed to produce destructive stupidity.
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
And this is why the bets being taken were 'fair'. Not immoral. There were still two sides to the bet. And I don't care about the bit of this post I haven't quoted about it perhaps being unethical. This is the betting industry we're talking about, not a church investing in the arms trade.
These were right-wing people betting on their right wing views and assumptions being accepted by a right wing hierarchy. They were betting on an outcome, which is what all betting is. The fact that outcome had morphed from the direct election result to a more indirect court battle is neither here nor there. Money where their mouth was. Good on them. Hope they lost a fortune.
Oh. They did.
teqniq
DisMembered
I suspect misogyny is part of the general makeup of these people.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
i could go on in this vein, but here's the URL for everyone to follow
It's striking how many of 'these people' there are in that regard. On the left and on the right.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
In an age in which the internet and social media have made it relatively trivial to communicate with public figures, I think such people are inevitably going to be a lot more noticeable, as the entry barriers for stalkers and harassers have concomitantly dropped. Sending letters or using the phone takes a bit more effort.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
nypost is a murdoch joint.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Twitter updates warning label for election misinformation to say Joe Biden won
Twitter has updated the warning labels it applies to election misinformation to reflect that Joe Biden is the president-elect, the company said on Saturday.
www.cnn.com
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