US election 2020 thread

[Raheem]

I don't think it can't happen because of law and procedure. I think it can't happen because of something more powerful than that. Politics.

OK, but you seemed previously to be saying it would be the courts.

 

[maomao]

I don't think it can't happen because of law and procedure. I think it can't happen because of something more powerful than that. Politics.

Politics are the one thing that won't save you. The country's already at war with itself.

 

[maomao]

The Proud Boys are marching on DC this weekend.

I doubt that will come to much.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

OK, but you seemed previously to be saying it would be the courts.

Trump is trying to get the result changed through the courts. That is what he is doing. And the system allows him to do it. Once that fails, and it will, he is plumb out of options.

That said, it is a mistake to think of Supreme Courts as politically neutral bodies. They're not. They will rule in a way that preserves the system.

 

[JTG]

Trump has just terminated the Secretary of State for Defence for not putting troops on the street during the BLM protests. He has now installed a yes man. It’s not a great leap to see how dangerous this could quickly become. Is the military aligned with the president, the constitution or God?

The US military will not get involved. At all.

 

[bimble]

The US military will not get involved. At all.

Unless they are forced to choose who is commander in chief , can’t be both men, can’t just not choose.

 

[JTG]

Anyway, PA is now well outside automatic recount territory (Biden is 0.7% ahead). Pennsylvania's Republicans, who control the state capitol, are on record as saying they will respect the popular vote when appointing electors

 

[JTG]

Unless they are forced to choose who is commander in chief , can’t be both men, can’t just not choose.

That transfers on January 20th. There won't be two commanders in chief

 

[Raheem]

That transfers on January 20th. There won't be two commanders in chief

Unless there are two USAs.

 

[bimble]

 

[stavros]

 

[JTG]

I think some of you are getting overexcited

 

[maomao]

I think some of you are getting overexcited

I would claim to be on the wind up but I'd rather seem prescient if it all kicks off.

 

[planetgeli]

You do not get a coup, certainly in somewhere as big as the USA, without the most extraordinary amount of violence. This is not and will not be a coup. This is a sad old man using political donations to fight a losing court battle.

Interestingly, America has only ever suffered one coup. And that was done in 1898 by the party of white segregationists, the Democrats.

“This is a white man’s country, and white men must control and govern it.” - from their handbook of the time.

America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat Overthrew a Biracial Government in 1898 - America's forgotten coup.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think some of you are getting overexcited

Are you saying it's too early to panic?

 

[Raheem]

I'm reserving the right to claim to be on the wind-up should it not all kick off.

 

[gosub]

The Proud Boys are marching on DC this weekend.

The DC that voted 93% Biden.

 

[rutabowa]

Dave Chappelle has been coming out with some genius important stuff this year

 

[JTG]

Are you saying it's too early to panic?

It's too early to say even that tbh

 

[Dogsauce]

The DC that voted 93% Biden.

 

[Smangus]

Unless there are two USAs.

Blimey one's enough!

 

[Edward Kelly]

Rudy for one is a legitimate wanker, though.

They have pictures to prove it.

 

[Roadkill]

 

[ohmyliver]

I doubt that will come to much.

I agree. It also seems obvious bait.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I think some of you are getting overexcited

I know its a common tactic of the Trump administration, but they're certainly ramping up the "we're staying" rhetoric today:

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to acknowledge Joe Biden's victory as President-elect, saying at the State Department Tuesday that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration."

MSN

 

[bimble]

I think some of you are getting overexcited

Maybe. I’m not ashamed to say I’m properly scared now. It’s not that I think they’ll succeed but just assuming it’s all going to be fine by automatic operation of ‘the law’ or ‘politics’ seems really daft.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Maybe. I’m not ashamed to say I’m properly scared now. It’s not that I think they’ll succeed but just assuming it’s all going to be fine by automatic operation of ‘the law’ or ‘politics’ seems really daft.

It's not so much that it is automatic as that trump has no support for an actual coup. That's essentially what I meant by 'politics': the aggregate of self interest among those with the power to do such a thing.

 

[cyril_smear]

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thats going on the speeling miss takes facebook group.

 

[Sprocket.]

I am only concerned that there will be more lives needlessly lost.
Though my pragmatic Mrs says it’s America, hundreds of lives are lost annually, she accepts it as business as usual.

 

[Funky_monks]

Im waiting for some sort of "Reichstag fire"....