Its going to be grim when Biden does terrible things and liberal journalists (and perhaps some on the left) either ignore it, defend it, or concede its bad whilst praising him for at least following the normal rules of decorum.
US election 2020 thread
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bendeus
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Oh, I don't know. Nothing projects political gravitas quite like a ride on mower.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Because liberal journalists and the left tut-tutting and sneering at Trump made such a massive difference.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
don't worry, at that point we'll all go "oh my god, Count Cuckula was right and we never believed him! We better go and hang on every word he says now."
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Yes, the left of the DP is already being shut out.
More importantly a Biden administration is going to continue class warfare against workers
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Pretty much business as usual then. I think you're ascribing these people too much importance tbh
petee
no gods, no malarkey
why just yesterday i heard a card-carrying leftist point out that biden was a creature of the deep state.
so, um, yeah?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Do you have examples of this to give? He hasn't announced any appointments yet, has he?
This article certainly suggests that everything is still very much in the air.
How to build a government: Transition challenges await Biden
Even a possible role for Sanders. Are they wrong?
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
The population of the whole of california is 39 million and that state has the biggest population in the us. So no usa city has 100 million voters.
Its all made up bollocks from the Trump side anyway.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not sure tbh but certainly grim people like John Kasich are demanding that the left be marginalised. Don't need to describe what's going on, it's the same rhetoric you hear from the most awful people in the Labour Party.
That Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib's organising and ground game in Minneapolis and Detroit helped drive up turn out there and deliver two marginal states into the Democratic column is neither here nor there - thanks for your efforts, now fuck off
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
For sure, it's jockeying for position and the aftermath of the disappointing Congressional results. The right are blaming the left saying BLM & defund the police cost them tight races, the left are pointing out that candidates who supported universal healthcare etc fared better than those who didn't. AOC has been quite upfront on Twitter and in the media about some of this stuff including how she has offered help to the Democratic Party in how to win grassroots races and been ignored.
As I say, parallels with UK Labour.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Biden's whole campaign, and indeed history, has been based on an appeal to centrism, 'working with republicans', 'the American people'. Where was his campaign targeted? At trying to boost the turnout/support from low waged voters? No to the independent voters in the suburbs. And since the first night Democratic Party members have been blaming the loss on seats on those on the left. He was Obama's VP pick for a reason. Why is Biden suddenly going to abandon the politics of a lifetime?
Seriously we've been here before - Kinnock, Blair, Clegg, Obama. Less than 12 months ago the same line was claimed with Starmer, oh the left of the party will stop him moving right. This time is not going to be different.
Raheem
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AOC did an interview today or yesterday where she's quite combative and, reading between the lines, Biden engaging with the left of the party must, at the least, not be a done deal.
That said, AFAICS, there are objectively good reasons for him to want to, unless he has policy goals that make it impossible, which I don't think is obvious in the near term. We'll just have to see.
Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush are going to Washington now so the Squad's numbers have increased slightly
Treacle Toes
Time
This is brilliant.
Treacle Toes
Time
His happy place.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, that really. It is a bit of an emotional trick you end up playing on yourself though. I'm delighted to see the end of a narcissistic rapist and racist who managed to obliterate the basics of decency and truth, admittedly riding a wave of alt-right, populist, culture wars stuff that was independent of him. But you end up looking over your own psychological shoulder and thinking don't get sucked in. There's nothing good in the biographies of Biden and Harris or the wider politics of the Dem Presidency and split House/Senate. Ultimately, they too are the enemy.
But still, I'm up for wishing every bit of pain there is on trump. I'm not high minded enough to think people like Trump (and Johnson) shouldn't have to face up to their due deserts. Doubt trump will ever see the inside of a court room, but the hit to his sense of who he is must be tremendous. Seeing (perhaps the majority of) the nation laughing at the 'loser' must be pretty crushing, however much he rationalises it as a stolen election. Seeing all his 'friends' melting away is wonderful. Fucking hell, the number of people he's abused, personally and collectively. They won't get 'justice', but this must at least feel like a win.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Shithouses.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I don't see trump getting done, but fucking hell, what a thing for a prosecutor to have on their cv.
spring-peeper
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I'm going with - He said no!!!
www.cnn.com
Jared Kushner, Melania Trump advise Trump to accept election loss
President Donald Trump's inner circle is beginning to split over his ongoing refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election, as Jared Kushner and first lady Melania Trump advised him to come to terms with President-elect Joe Biden's victory and his adult sons pressed him and allies to keep...
www.cnn.com
Did the seagulls follow the trailer?
JimW
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Sima Qian was something of a terse recorder of events, as was the wont with these classical types. The anecdote's not really relevant either but it came to mind for some reason.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
CNN quoting 'sources' that even Melania has now advised him that it's over, and he needs to concede.
No doubt in an attempt to cause him a heart attack, to bring her own misery to an end.
No doubt in an attempt to cause him a heart attack, to bring her own misery to an end.
JimW
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The red Barron is quietly celebrating.
I see. Was his cant on a brief side?
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