US election 2020 thread

[littlebabyjesus]

Tbh I'm not convinced it would be the most productive use of time or set a great precedent if he did go to jail. I mean I'd love to see him hit with masses of fines but sending him down could do a lot more harm than good especially in the highly febrile atmosphere America is in now.

Trump will not be pursued by Biden. He could well be pursued by New York, though, and I very much hope he is. But it would all take a very long time, no doubt.

 

[kabbes]

New York State does have a bit of a track record for going after financial crimes. In the early 2000s, Spitzer took down a lot of people and institutions that thought they were invulnerable.

 

[moochedit]

The State of New York didn't win the election though
I mean, it may not happen, idk, but my point is that New York State will do what they please with the investigation

Just googled and it seems that new york passed a law last year specifically to allow them to prosecute people that were pardoned at the federal level.

Cuomo signs law that allows NY to prosecute those pardoned by a President

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed legislation on Wednesday that will allow the state to prosecute people who have received a presidential pardon for the same offense, which could potentially affect associates of President Donald Trump.

www.cnn.com

 

[two sheds]

If nothing else it would be nice to see all the documents come out under disclosure rules

 

[tim]

Not looking good for the UK.

Only in the sense that Farage will now become as irrelevant as every other British politician already is.

 

[JTG]

Just googled and it seems that new york passed a law last year specifically to allow them to prosecute people that were pardoned at the federal level.

Cuomo signs law that allows NY to prosecute those pardoned by a President

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed legislation on Wednesday that will allow the state to prosecute people who have received a presidential pardon for the same offense, which could potentially affect associates of President Donald Trump.

www.cnn.com

Playing the long game, like it

 

[Yossarian]

Oh my god, they're trying to negotiate

He's getting through the stages faster than I expected if he's moved from denial and anger to bargaining already.

 

[Tankus]

Thermal cut outs on the shredders are being forced open methinks.....

 

[tim]

Powerful people have all sorts of advantages everywhere but not always invulnerability.

In this case it's a given that he is invulnerable.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Proper bankruptcy. Not the kind rich people do. The kind poor people get.

A pale, bald old tramp shuffling through Central Park in a ragged suit with a preposterously long red tie dangling over his privates, muttering to anyone who will listen some nonsense that he used to be the President of the United States.

 

[A380]

Proper bankruptcy. Not the kind rich people do. The kind poor people get.

A pale, bald old tramp shuffling through Central Park in a ragged suit with a preposterously long red tie dangling over his privates, muttering to anyone who will listen some nonsense that he used to be the President of the United States.

And then, then, can we see his head explode?

 

[JTG]

Biden's on his way to address the nation - live everywhere I should imagine

 

[Smangus]

Trump will not be pursued by Biden. He could well be pursued by New York, though, and I very much hope he is. But it would all take a very long time, no doubt.

I think he has more to fear from Deutchebank, and sooner, a lot sooner.

 

[JTG]

I think he has more to fear from Deutchebank, and sooner, a lot sooner.

Ah yeah, saw a tweet about that and moved on quickly - what's going on there?

 

[JTG]

The Biden audience are in their cars. Well they're not, they're out of them but you know what I mean

 

[DaveCinzano]

I think he has more to fear from Deutchebank, and sooner, a lot sooner.

Apparently they sent over their best account closure team, they've just arrived at Trump Tower

 

[Smangus]

Ah yeah, saw a tweet about that and moved on quickly - what's going on there?

Well he owes them a shit load of money, one of the reasons they haven't foreclosed is that he is a sitting president and it wouldn't look too good. Now he won't be and the cover the presidency has given him will be lost, another consequence of losing. Oh dear.

Exclusive: Tired of Trump, Deutsche Bank games ways to sever ties with the president - sources

 

[JTG]

AZ lead continues to shrink, now down to 18,700

 

[belboid]

It's PRESIDENT BIDEN! What a 'relief' for the whole world! | First Dog on the Moon

All he has to do is moderately wind back the worst of Trump’s excesses and he is going to look like a big Jesusy Santa

www.theguardian.com

“On a scale of one to drone striking a wedding, how evil is the lesser evil?”

 

[Raheem]

In this case it's a given that he is invulnerable.

Nah. Assuming he's evaded tax, there's various ways he might escape conviction, but name one that's a given.

 

[Raheem]

I think he has more to fear from Deutchebank, and sooner, a lot sooner.

Unfortunately, banks are not directly authorized to imprison people. Not physically, at least.

 

[Mation]

I know we all (collectively) do it to some degree, but the most disgraceful aspect for me is not the noisy hardcore card-carrying racist scumbags who at the end of the day are a small minority, but the hundred+ million of “mainstream” Republicans who still voted for him this time around despite knowing, if not publicly admitting, what a disgraceful, unchristian, abominable piece of fucking shit he is.

It’s not as if the alternative was is Cz devil incarnate ffs. What would actually take for those cunts to think ‘mmm that bloke is actually a proper wrong one, can’t vote for him’ ?

You aren't really in the best position to judge whether the proportion of Americans that are 'hardcore card-carrying racist scumbags' is a small minority, particularly given your previous poor judgement over what's racist and what's not. Stick to talking about things you know more about.

 

[D'wards]

Nice- Joe came out to We Take Care of our Own by Bruce Springsteen

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No need to shout, Joe. You've got a mike.


He's recognisably a human being. That's undeniably progress.

 

[tim]

Nah. Assuming he's evaded tax, there's various ways he might escape conviction, but name one that's a given.

The fact that no prominent US politician wants to set a precedent that might lead to them being charged once out of office is one. A second is that no prominent US politician wants to turn an opponent into a martyr is a a second.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Empty rhetoric mostly. Aside from covid. He's clear about that at least.

 

[gosub]

• It just means that more other people will die. Do you have a racial preference for dead people?

  Gun deaths ARE at an all time high, but still only on the same steady 6% rise, which given the year that's been in it could be a fuck site worse. Gun suicides are steady too which also surprises me. Or do you mean Covid deaths coz I dunno, but I expect having a President who didn't think unmasked unsociaally distanced mass ralllies were a good idea might be able to further reduce their death rate who knows might even put in some base medicare that helps treats other conditions

 

[Calamity1971]

After seeing that 46 in lights , he will always be Rossi .
Sorry to any anarchists, but I've popped a prosecco cork cos owts better than trumpton of crazy town.

 

[JTG]

Oh dear, how sad, never mind

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I'm hearing fireworks now.

And, this popped up in a park a few blocks away: