US election 2020 thread
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cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Yeah you are right, I think I quoted the figure for a specific county that CNN was looking at, rather than the state-wide vote.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
The GOP doesn't want him running amok and inflicting damage on them by throwing a tantrum especially with these runoff Senate elections in the offing. However Orange Joffery doesn't care about the GOP only his massive ego. He might finally do one good thing in his miserable life by crippling the fuckers with his public tantrums
"Go For It Donny Tell Them How You Really Feel"
"Go For It Donny Tell Them How You Really Feel"
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
This is niiice. Always wanted to explore AZ.
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
Where are you getting that from?Biden's lead in Georgia continues to increase, now 7,248.
E2a: Nevermind - I've now seen the answer above.
No, I hadn't.
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Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Yet his opponents don’t have the tactical nous to exploit these cracks and stir the pot. See also pushing for new rules for the TV debates, when Trump’s shouting over everything in the first one clearly benefited them.
Morning catch up:
- PA lead continues to grow but things slowing down as they hit the provisional ballots etc. These are given to voters who, say, requested a mail ballot but turned up in person and didn't surrender the mail ballot or there was some doubt over their eligibility etc. So they have to be checked to see if they haven't voted already etc
- GA lead has grown a bit and, as above, they're doing the remaining bits. Recount will still happen, that's set now
- AZ lead has shrunk but not at the rate Trump needs it to - Dems doing better in Maricopa County than statewide and it's Maricopa that counts in Arizona
- NV lead grows with 90% of what's left in Clark County. Could be called but there may be a little doubt as a number of in-person votes are still left which are redder than average.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
CNN.
But, you can see it here:
Live: Where Presidential Votes Remain to Be Counted (Published 2020)
See the outstanding estimated vote to be counted in the 2020 presidential election.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
"Aren't you glad you have stability under me instead of chaos under that messy Western system? Those who answer no will be welcomed to a local facility where they can answer more questions."
Live: Where Presidential Votes Remain to Be Counted (Published 2020)
See the outstanding estimated vote to be counted in the 2020 presidential election.
I think what you're seeing here is American democracy & the machinery of the state just kind of moving on past the defeated incumbent.
The state has a very good idea of who the presumptive nominee is and have moved to protect him. The people in charge of counting the votes continue to count and report. The numbers mount up, the story firms up. The media know what's happened and have closed ranks to tell the story from their own angles. Enough GOP officials are moving away from, or at least not moving towards the President that he's ending up isolated - seeing the PA GOP leader saying they won't appoint alternative electors is confirmation that the will of the people will be implemented.
Eventually what you end up with is a guy inhabiting the White House who, come January 20th, shouldn't be there. And the Biden campaign is on record some time ago as saying "the US government is perfectly capable of removing a trespasser from the White House"
Enjoy watching him shrink further into irrelevance over the next few weeks
The state has a very good idea of who the presumptive nominee is and have moved to protect him. The people in charge of counting the votes continue to count and report. The numbers mount up, the story firms up. The media know what's happened and have closed ranks to tell the story from their own angles. Enough GOP officials are moving away from, or at least not moving towards the President that he's ending up isolated - seeing the PA GOP leader saying they won't appoint alternative electors is confirmation that the will of the people will be implemented.
Eventually what you end up with is a guy inhabiting the White House who, come January 20th, shouldn't be there. And the Biden campaign is on record some time ago as saying "the US government is perfectly capable of removing a trespasser from the White House"
Enjoy watching him shrink further into irrelevance over the next few weeks
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Interesting article for once in the Guardian re the Trunp vote, the choices facing the Republicans about their future and the threat to the Democrats. Some have argued on here that Trumpism might just melt away but this article touches on the question is it possible to have Trumpism without Trump ie populist conservatism that appeals to the working class.
Some little surprises in there ie I never knew that Nixon previously had the biggest share of the non white vote for a Republican candidate and neither was I aware of Bidens Buy American and incentives for USA foreign based businesses to relocate back to the States ( not that I dont agree with the latter) .
www.theguardian.com
Some little surprises in there ie I never knew that Nixon previously had the biggest share of the non white vote for a Republican candidate and neither was I aware of Bidens Buy American and incentives for USA foreign based businesses to relocate back to the States ( not that I dont agree with the latter) .
Democrats beware: the Republicans will soon be the party of the working class | Samuel Hammond
The notion of the Republican party becoming a multiethnic working-class coalition may seem farcical now, the longer-term trend speaks for itself
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Interesting article for once in the Guardian re the Trunp vote, the choices facing the Republicans about their future and the threat to the Democrats. Some have argued on here that Trumpism might just melt away but this article touches on the question is it possible to have Trumpism without Trump ie populist conservatism that appeals to the working class.
Some little surprises in there ie I never knew that Nixon previously had the biggest share of the non white vote for a Republican candidate and neither was I aware of Bidens Buy American and incentives for USA foreign based businesses to relocate back to the States ( not that I dont agree with the latter) .
Democrats beware: the Republicans will soon be the party of the working class | Samuel Hammond
The notion of the Republican party becoming a multiethnic working-class coalition may seem farcical now, the longer-term trend speaks for itself
I did see one poll suggesting that people in higher income brackets were still overwhelmingly voting Republican due to tax issues etc. Would be interesting to see what the long term trends were on that and whether it's reduced from 2016.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes those crucial Senate run-off elections now look pretty daunting for the GOP, don't they?
With a chunk of their 'base' being disgruntled/demoralised/angry Trump loyalists who, by Jan 5th, will have seen the party distance itself from their hero and their opponent's activist 'ground-war' fired up by their registration/mail-in campaign success. You can see Dems being able to persuade those who voted for Biden that their (mail-in) votes counted, effected change and could do again.
Exit polling indicates the first income bracket that produced a majority for Donald Trump was $100k/yearInteresting article for once in the Guardian re the Trunp vote, the choices facing the Republicans about their future and the threat to the Democrats. Some have argued on here that Trumpism might just melt away but this article touches on the question is it possible to have Trumpism without Trump ie populist conservatism that appeals to the working class.
Some little surprises in there ie I never knew that Nixon previously had the biggest share of the non white vote for a Republican candidate and neither was I aware of Bidens Buy American and incentives for USA foreign based businesses to relocate back to the States ( not that I dont agree with the latter) .
Democrats beware: the Republicans will soon be the party of the working class | Samuel Hammond
The notion of the Republican party becoming a multiethnic working-class coalition may seem farcical now, the longer-term trend speaks for itself
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
It's a flat top Jim, but not as we know it
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Does anyone have a Washington post subscription? I can't read this article. https://t.co/HoHw49EB2G?amp=1
I mean, it's more complicated than that of course and w/c support for Republicans is long established in some areas. Dems do need to come up with a strategy that involves helping the w/c
ska invita
back on the other side
Interesting article for once in the Guardian re the Trunp vote, the choices facing the Republicans about their future and the threat to the Democrats. Some have argued on here that Trumpism might just melt away but this article touches on the question is it possible to have Trumpism without Trump ie populist conservatism that appeals to the working class.
Some little surprises in there ie I never knew that Nixon previously had the biggest share of the non white vote for a Republican candidate and neither was I aware of Bidens Buy American and incentives for USA foreign based businesses to relocate back to the States ( not that I dont agree with the latter) .
Democrats beware: the Republicans will soon be the party of the working class | Samuel Hammond
The notion of the Republican party becoming a multiethnic working-class coalition may seem farcical now, the longer-term trend speaks for itself
Similar dynamic with the Brexit vote with wealthy, older voters voting leave...however that doesnt negate the truths of the article 39thstep posted...in fact it points to a powerful cross-class coalition. Pandoras box has been opened
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Yes its more complicated . I'm not arguing that Trumpism is working class but I am suggesting that despite Biden winning more votes amongst white working class males this time that Trumpism has a resonance within some of the working class that is different from previous Republican votes. Some of this is no doubt due to the Democrats image /and or positioning. Did you see that interview with Andrew Yang when he talked about the reaction he got from some w/class voters about being a Democrat?
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Exactly, I ve stopped bothering about what Trump says and started listening to Mitch McConnell to get a sense of what the gop is thinking.
One interesting thing you're seeing just now is elected officers with GOP alignment getting pissed off with being told they're failing at their jobs by other people in the GOP. Usually they're just trying to get their shit done, even if they don't like the results
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