US election 2020 thread

[danny la rouge]

Let's start composing better headlines than "You're fired!"

"Don gone in hidin' from Biden"

"Last Trump Sounds"

“Donald where’s your voters?”

 

[imposs1904]

Biden has now won more votes than any Presidential candidate ever, surpassing Obama.

Damn, I wanted Trump to win the popular vote and for Biden to win the Electoral College.

 

[JimW]

“Donald where’s your voters?”

Wake up and smell the covfefe

 

[Wilf]

1951 & 1874 in the UK

and 1974 in the UK (can't remember if it was 1st of 2nd election that year)...

… ha! Just realised 1874 was a typo.

 

[danny la rouge]

“That’s why Wisconsin isn’t Trump”.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Wayne County has come through. Well done, Wayne. So Michigan and Wisconsin now in the bag for Biden?

pessimistic about PA. Still a long way back and running out of votes. So all on Nevada tomorrow?

 

[flypanam]

Quite, which is one reason Bernie isn't necessarily the dead cert some seem to think he would have been - he might be able to sweep the rust belt, but could well be at the cost of other constituencies in other swing states.

(I would still have preferred him in the seat mind)

And obviously have the full backing of the dems...just like labour backed Corbyn.

 

[andysays]

Yes, and that's the only way one can organise a federal state system.

No, it's not the only way, but there are quite important reasons why it was organised that way, and why it remains that way today, just as there are reasons why the electoral college system is organised and operates the way it does.

Simply saying it shouldn't be the way it is because you (not just you, TBF) think it should be done differently is pretty pointless, though if you or anyone else want to continue in that vein, by my guest.

 

[brogdale]

and 1974 in the UK (can't remember if it was 1st of 2nd election that year)...

… ha! Just realised 1874 was a typo.

No, it wasn't, but you're right about Feb '74.

 

[Wilf]

Is this a more painful way for Trump to lose than heftily? You'd hope so.

'Is that your actual signature on the nomination paper Mr President?'

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

or obama for that matter

so no

If Pakistan flew in a squadron of elite troops to the US to attack a compound, kills anyone there who stood in the way of their principal target and then fly out with the corpse of that principal target, pretty sure the US would class that an invasion...

 

[Pickman's model]

If Pakistan flew in a squadron of elite troops to the US to attack a compound, kills anyone there who stood in the way of their principal target and then fly out with the corpse of that principal target, pretty sure the US would class that an attack...

this is why the events of september 11 2001 are recalled as the 9/11 attacks and not the al qaeda invasion

 

[Sue]

Wayne County has come through. Well done, Wayne. So Michigan and Wisconsin now in the bag for Biden?

pessimistic about PA. Still a long way back and running out of votes. So all on Nevada tomorrow?

In true Vegas style .

 

[maomao]

So what happens if the AP 'calls' a state and then the vote goes the other way? Why is it up to the AP anyway? Seems a ridiculous way of doing it especially as they have six weeks till the electoral college vote anyway.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No, it's not the only way, but there are quite important reasons why it was organised that way, and why it remains that way today, just as there are reasons why the electoral college system is organised and operates the way it does.

Simply saying it shouldn't be the way it is because you (not just you, TBF) think it should be done differently is pretty pointless, though if you or anyone else want to continue in that vein, by my guest.

There are historical reasons why all systems are as they are. Doesn't mean they're sensible, fit for purpose and particularly democratic today. The UK's wonky system is another case in point.

 

[Wilf]

Welcome to the last few hours Kaka Tim

Yeah, even I got that!

 

[tim]

Yeah Nevada. Out for a lie down, back tomorrow

They should be counting in one of those casinos where they do their best to disorientated themselves and lose track of time as you gamble.

They should also get croupiers to do the counting: they can count quickly; Democrat leaning; and good at cheating.

 

[maomao]

this is why the events of september 11 2001 are recalled as the 9/11 attacks and not the al qaeda invasion

Pretty sure you have to be a nation or state of some sort to count as an invasion.

 

[belboid]

If Pakistan flew in a squadron of elite troops to the US to attack a compound, kills anyone there who stood in the way of their principal target and then fly out with the corpse of that principal target, pretty sure the US would class that an invasion...

Trump has done that as well though. And cruise missiled Syria

 

[Thaw]

Biden has now won more votes than any Presidential candidate ever, surpassing Obama.

Trump has also already got >1m more than Obama did in 2012 (66m) so he could still beat Obama 2008 too.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Trump has also already got >1m more than Obama did in 2012 (66m) so he could still beat Obama 2008 too.

He's the most successful sitting president ever.

 

[frogwoman]

The number of votes goes up with the number of people in the population. I don't see how it's that important tbh

 

[Pickman's model]

Pretty sure you have to be a nation or state of some sort to count as an invasion.

in that case the british were the last people to invade the united states, in the 1960s

 

[Calamity1971]

Trump calling for recount in Wisconsin.

 

[JTG]

conversely, heavily democratic California passed Proposition 22, which strips Uber drivers etc. of their employment rights. Almost like people support parties like they would a football team rather than having any particular political values.

Yes, I noticed that

 

[Treacle Toes]

Trump has also already got >1m more than Obama did in 2012 (66m) so he could still beat Obama 2008 too.

Incredible...this actually reads like Trump tweet.

He could actually go back in time and do that.

 

[Yossarian]

There are historical reasons why all systems are as they are. Doesn't mean they're sensible, fit for purpose and particularly democratic today. The UK's wonky system is another case in point.

I wonder how many botched elections it's going to take before both parties acknowledge that a small group of wealthy slaveowners 225 years ago may not in fact have created the most perfect system of government ever devised.

 

[belboid]

Gross misinformation put out about prop 22, apparently. 40% exit polled thought it was about a minimum wage for drivers!

 

[Pickman's model]

In true Vegas style .

it'll be trump's 11 or something, a heist in which stuffed ballot boxes are deposited beside the real ones. trump will be played in less than persuasive casting by brian blessed.

 

[JimW]

Incredible...this actually reads like Trump tweet.

He could actually go back in time and do that.

He'll go back further and beat Washington and Lincoln. Best president ever!