US election 2020 thread
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Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
I'm done. Thanks all for your digital company through this hell 
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
Not sure, but I don't think he's conceded yet.
Infidel Castro
Producto Falso
The bastards
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Just getting to grips with said hell: so, assuming Wisconsin and Nevada go Biden, he needs one of the others - all of which get him to 270 or more (except NC which takes him to 269 I think). Problem is Biden is behind in all of them looking at the guardian's 'leaning' map.
And are we still assuming postal votes still favour Biden.... and if so, which of the states still in play are counting postal votes last?
AKA, what the fuck is happening?
And are we still assuming postal votes still favour Biden.... and if so, which of the states still in play are counting postal votes last?
AKA, what the fuck is happening?
OK, my take:
WI appears to be Biden's. Only those Green Bay votes and a handful of mail ballots here and there. Gnat's whisker
NV ditto... have to assume that remaining mail ballots will be good for him? Unless late arriving mail ballots trend GOP, who knows
MI - all on Detroit and other big urban areas which appear to be where the remaining mail ballots are
AZ - not called yet but again it's the mail vote and AZ appears to have got the hump with Trump over John McCain
He wins with those and I aint talking about the rest
Cheers for your company, it's been something!
Sleeeeeeep
WI appears to be Biden's. Only those Green Bay votes and a handful of mail ballots here and there. Gnat's whisker
NV ditto... have to assume that remaining mail ballots will be good for him? Unless late arriving mail ballots trend GOP, who knows
MI - all on Detroit and other big urban areas which appear to be where the remaining mail ballots are
AZ - not called yet but again it's the mail vote and AZ appears to have got the hump with Trump over John McCain
He wins with those and I aint talking about the rest
Cheers for your company, it's been something!
Sleeeeeeep
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
Not sure, but I do know he had one of the best election campaigns OF ALL TIME!!!!!
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
Sorry if this has been discussed on the thread before, but is it true (as the BBC are pushing) that some hispanic/latino folks are more likely to vote for Trump because they fled from a so-called "socialist" regime and therefore don't want to vote for anything like that (this is just what commentators on the BBC keep saying, I have no illusions that either the Democrats or any locations from which folks may have come are remotely socialist - it seems ridiculous and almost like try to put the blame on the left when one right winger gets more votes than another right winger)
Plumdaff
joy in people
As mentioned upthread, the Miami area in particular has high numbers of Cuban and Venezuelan Americans who tend to be right wing and firmly anti communist. This doesn't translate to other areas with high levels of Latino voters, however, something has happened in south Texas where Latinos have swung significantly to Trump.
I was aware of some conspiracy nonsense going on on WhatsApp with Latino voters, anyone know more details?
bimble
floofy
Pure anecdote but my dad defected from a ‘communist’ country and he would run a mile from the threat of returning to that but he can see what trump is and can see how insane the claims that the demócrats are the Radical Left.
eta i think he is obsessed with loathing for trump because he recognises authoritarianism , intimately.
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cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Michigan continues to move, Trump was ahead by over 200k, now down to 64.5k
17% of votes still to count.
17% of votes still to count.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
"Anti communist" doesn't equate to voting for Trump though, let's credit people with a bit more nous than that.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
In the insane bubble that is the USA, it pretty much does.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
So, just doing a bit of mouse hovering on the grauniad site, the narrowest race is Wisconsin, which Biden needs, along with Nevada and one more). Not looking good, unless the make up of the votes still to be counted in one of the trump leaning states is heavily skewed for Biden. Trump's got this hasn't he? 
www.theguardian.com
US election 2020 live results: Donald Trump takes on Joe Biden in tight presidential race
All eyes on the midwest as contest between Donald Trump and Joe Biden hinges on a handful of states
www.theguardian.com
not-bono-ever
meh
Latino isn’t a homogeneous mass in the USA . Location and background more important than language. The Mariel Florida cohort are pretty much red to the bone . Meh
Plumdaff
joy in people
Credit them with whatever you like but the Cuban and Venezuelan American vote (who either left, or are the descendants of those who left Cuba and Venezuela) have been reliably right wing and Republican for a long time and anti communism is a massive part of that.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And Trump did what they want - refreezing the relationship with Cuba after Obama's thaw.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
Yeah I am aware of that - I am just concerned that the BBC narrative seems to be overall trying to say that the "Latino" vote in certain areas have swung this - there have been various mentions of it and I am concerned that the blame is being placed incorrectly
I don't want to hear in the post-mortem that anything is being blamed with more emphasis than appropriate on a particular segement of the voter population
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
So, just doing a bit of mouse hovering on the grauniad site, the narrowest race is Wisconsin, which Biden needs, along with Nevada and one more). Not looking good, unless the make up of the votes still to be counted in one of the trump leaning states is heavily skewed for Biden. Trump's got this hasn't he?
US election 2020 live results: Donald Trump takes on Joe Biden in tight presidential race
All eyes on the midwest as contest between Donald Trump and Joe Biden hinges on a handful of states
No. Come on Detroit.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I might be being naive, but if 60-odd million people vote for Trump, I'm not sure many people would buy that this is the fault of one million of them.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
I agree, but it seems to be something that some sectors (including various BBC interviews) have been pushing as a narrative - and I am not in favour of rhat. It worries me that the analysis is suggesting stuff like this.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh but wrong red tho
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
For what it's worth, the coverage I was watching was hosted by two Latinx people and they were saying the same thing, but specifically about Cubans in Florida (I don't think they mentioned Venezuelans, but I might just have missed it).
So, at least from that POV, it's not "Latinx cost Biden the election", it's "Cubans (and Venezuelans) in Florida voted for Trump". There was also some discussion that this isn't the case for Latinx voters elsewhere in the States, but also that - surprise, surprise - the Democrats have taken the Latinx vote for granted and that may be working against them now.
bimble
floofy
i think the claim might be that this is where trump got his 'new' supporters, the ones who werent there 4 yrs ago. I've heard people worrying about that same thing for a while.
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