US election 2020 thread

[agricola]

Lincoln Project have been great entertainment, through this tbf, fighting the good fight. Methinks Mr Sirota is spoiling for a fight - He must be new to Twitter, it's really not the arena for tit-for-tats...

They were just a pressure group; what was needed is for someone plausible to come along as a Republican alternative to Trump and that never happened.

 

[cupid_stunt]

According to CNN, we should have a result from Wisconsin in the next 15-20 minutes.

Another half an hour now, bastards.

 

[weltweit]

I haven't seen much about the actual counting process yet. IIRC there were some auto counting machines some times ago which permitted the tallying of presidential and senatorial votes at the same time. Again IIRC they were discredited (perhaps that was the hanging chads episode), but it begs the question, how are they tallying the multiple votes on the same ballot this time?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Biggest polling failure ever? Im wondering weather trump got votes cos of growing anti lockdown sentiment and those voters were reluctant to fess up to pollsters on their selfishness

 

[Pickman's model]

He's on 49.8% and a 1.8m lead nationally

So nearly there

 

[1927]

Even in NC where there's only c5% of the vote left to count, the counties that are noticeably low on counting so far (90-95%) are blue and urban (Charlotte, Fayetteville, Raleigh)

So Urban could win it for Biden?

 

[JTG]

Every now and then they have a referendum about splitting California in two. Normally thought to favour republicans and potentially split the electoral college vote so they don't all go Dem, but with those numbers you'd have to say the Dems would probably hold both and get an extra two Senate seats into the deal most years.

Didn't know that. North Cal is the redder half but with the Bay Area, Sacramento and the coast you'd give it a reasonable chance of being Dem

 

[JTG]

So nearly there

He'll probably get there with the mail vote...

 

[Graymalkin]

Sorry but who are the PMC? I've not slept enough to work it out

It stands for "Professional Managerial Class", basically self appointed, professional interlocutors between various, mostly marginalized, groups and the various state/capitalist power structures. They are referred to as a 'class' because they act mostly to channel antagonisms into mainstream politics and reproduce their own place in society.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Sorry but who are the PMC? I've not slept enough to work it out

Private military contractors

 

[JTG]

Biggest polling failure ever? Im wondering weather trump got votes cos of growing anti lockdown sentiment and those voters were reluctant to fess up to pollsters on their selfishness

 

[danny la rouge]

Sorry but who are the PMC? I've not slept enough to work it out

Paul McCartney Consortium.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

Sorry but who are the PMC? I've not slept enough to work it out

Political managers of capital is my prefered formulation.

Professional managerial class seems too vague for me.

 

[Flavour]

The Trump lead is so fucking slim in Georgia, North Carolina and Wisconsin but I'm afraid to say he may hold on to it in all three and thereby have this sown up.

 

[chilango]

Biden also calling victories in unfinished States. Wonder if the BBC will wibble on about "fact checking" him.

 

[JTG]

Biden closes the WI gap by c9,000 after Kenosha absentee votes tallied

 

[Ted Striker]

clearly not that fucking compelling.

Well, I didn't want to go into that much detail, but there is am argument to say they are preaching to the converted with (relatively) clever and polished internet interactions. Not quite reaching out to the people they really need to convert,

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Why in the fuck are the BBC trotting Farage out to comment on it?

Because now over the next few years he’s very much going to be part of our political landscape again

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Aye. Trump will pull a W.G. Grace whatever happens and declare himself not out.

Biden now at the crease, looks like Trump's about to bowl a maiden over, but no, he's grabbed her by the pussy instead. Bad form outside of the locker room there from Donald.

 

[JTG]

Well, I didn't want to go into that much detail, but there is am argument to say they are preaching to the converted with (relatively) clever and polished internet interactions. Not quite reaching out to the people they really need to convert,

I mean, I'm sure they have their audience but I don't think it's as big as they obviously thought it was

 

[JTG]

Biden closes the WI gap by c9,000 after Kenosha absentee votes tallied

Decision Desk HQ now appears to have Biden ahead in WI by 2,000

 

[Pickman's model]

Decision Desk HQ now appears to have Biden ahead in WI by 2,000

What happens when they remove their rose-tinted specs?

 

[JTG]

 

[prunus]

Because now over the next few years he’s very much going to be part of our political landscape again

I often, wistfully, think of how different the world might be if he had died in that sodding plane crash.

 

[scifisam]

The BBC currently have an American talking head, Seth whatever, who's laughing and talking over the democrat he's talking to.

He has a poster behind him with Trump on saying "Cheers to my haters. Be patient, there's so much more coming." And another poster saying "John Wayne creed." He's outright denying that Trump is trying to stop votes being counted even though that's explicitly what Trump has said.

The female democrat, Anisha (I think) is holding her own well against him. But he's still laughing like a total fucking arsehole.

 

[Kaka Tim]

If Wisconsin goes to biden what other states does he need?

 

[JTG]

If Wisconsin goes to biden what other states does he need?

Michigan would be enough

 

[JTG]

Now 20k up


Milwaukee's coming through

 

[brogdale]

I often, wistfully, think of how different the world might be if he had died in that sodding plane crash.

If only Bercow had represented a more mountainous constituency.

 

[Rimbaud]

If Wisconsin goes to biden what other states does he need?

Assuming he takes Nevada, he needs any two of the remaining states.