US Democratic Party Primaries 2019

[Marty1]

Anyone watch some of the LV Dem debates?

Bloomberg took a shot at Bernie for owning three homes and having a net worth of $2.5 million with the emphasis that Bernie is a socialist and therefore a hypocrite. Bloomberg is likely spending more than Bernies net worth a day on ads.

 

[RTWL]

The more you outspent your opponents, the more you won by.

More interesting is a look at how the size of the winning candidate's victory corresponds to how much more that person spent. (The first three graphs in this post correspond to spending, not what was raised by the campaign.) Here are all of the races, with the vertical axis showing the point spread of the victory (e.g., a 60 percent to 40 percent win is a 20 percentage point spread). The horizontal axis shows the percentage more or less that the winning candidate spent.

Does More Campaign Money Actually Buy More Votes: An Investigation

Every American knows that money buys elections, that votes come with a price tag. Given new reports of one millionaire's investment in the Virginia gubernatorial race, we decided to test that assumption.

www.theatlantic.com

As if we did not know this already.

There are two things that are important in politics. The first is money and I can't remember what the second one is.

 

[N_igma]

Even the DNC can’t fix this caucus. Go Bernie!

 

[kabbes]

That trend line ^^ is poorly fitted. It’s being skewed by the extreme points at the 100% out-spend end of the graph. From eye, it looks like a non-linear relationship, so a straight line is an inappropriate fit.

 

[Kaka Tim]

If Sander wins the nomination... going to be a ferocious, dirty and deeply ideological electoral fight. Extraordinary how it mirrors the last UK general election =- but unlike corbyn, Sanders wont be crippled by brexit and dodgy associations from the past.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

If Sander wins the nomination... going to be a ferocious, dirty and deeply ideological electoral fight. Extraordinary how it mirrors the last UK general election =- but unlike corbyn, Sanders wont be crippled by brexit and dodgy associations from the past.

Here's hoping, but I'm unconvinced of the intelligence of the US electorate.

 

[Marty1]

Here's hoping, but I'm unconvinced of the intelligence of the US electorate.

Yeah, only an idiot would vote for Trump, just like only idiots voted for Brexit, then a party that ensured Brexit.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah, only an idiot would vote for Trump, just like only idiots voted for Brexit, then a party that ensured Brexit.

Oh, I don't doubt that there were many clever people who voted for him. There's plenty of corporate types and stock holders doing very well out of the man, and they will defend him to the hilt.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Here's hoping, but I'm unconvinced of the intelligence of the US electorate.

Sanders advantage over the usual democratic nominees - with there "sensible" technocratic policy tweaks dressed up in empty rhetoric is that - like trump - he can appeal on a emotive, romantic basis. The difference is that Sander's romanticism is on based on principles of democratic socialism rather than on racism, xenophobia, deluded nationalism and sundry reactionary dog whistles against women and minorities.

 

[ska invita]

What a sour faced absolute misery.

Any chance of a photo of you Martin?

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/post-your-ugly-mug-part-7-all-new-all-fresh-mug-action-for-your-delectation.274873/page-925#post-16396613

 

[Marty1]

Any chance of a photo of you Martin?

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/post-your-ugly-mug-part-7-all-new-all-fresh-mug-action-for-your-delectation.274873/page-925#post-16396613

Im on there already looking ugly enough.

How about you?

 

[Marty1]

Oh, I don't doubt that there were many clever people who voted for him. There's plenty of corporate types and stock holders doing very well out of the man, and they will defend him to the hilt.

You’re absolutely right - big business has never done so well under Trump, even the owner of WAPO - a publication openly hostile to Trump has massively enriched himself, shareholders of his company etc.

 

[teqniq]

Sanders wins convincingly in Nevada, looks like it will be him v Trump

Bernie Sanders' Nevada win is a breakout moment. The others are toast

The Vermont Senator will soon be going toe to toe with Donald Trump

www.theguardian.com

 

[ska invita]

Quite an interesting tweet


Was pointed out that in a presidential role you are not leading your party as a Prime Minister does, you are basically independent of them. Though reliant on support Id imagine....Still, does suggest he's up for the fight on all fronts.

 

[Marty1]

Sanders wins convincingly in Nevada, looks like it will be him v Trump

Bernie Sanders' Nevada win is a breakout moment. The others are toast

The Vermont Senator will soon be going toe to toe with Donald Trump

www.theguardian.com

Yeah, though the Dem establishment won’t be happy - tbh it should have been Bernie Vs Trump back in 2016.

Looks like 2020 is going to be Capitalism Vs Socialism.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah, though the Dem establishment won’t be happy - tbh it should have been Bernie Vs Trump back in 2016.

Looks like 2020 is going to be Capitalism Vs Socialism.

Every day is capitalism v socialism

 

[Yossarian]

A lot of the attacks on Sanders from establishment Democrats are sounding very similar to what establishment Republicans were saying about Trump in the last election - and Trump's apparent attempts to boost the "unelectable" Sanders because he thinks he'd be easy to beat are reminiscent of the strategy that didn't work out so well for Hillary Clinton.

You don’t know and don’t care why the professionals want Trump in the rear-view mirror. It’s not because we hate you or look down on you .... It’s because Donald Trump is not electable. He is the surest guarantor of Hillary Clinton’s election. If I were working for Hillary, I couldn’t think of a better weapon than Donald Trump to blow up the GOP, damage the conservative movement and put Hillary behind the Resolute Desk.

Trump Voters Are Hillary’s New Best Friends

A memo to Trump’s super fans from the GOP establishment.

www.politico.com

Maybe Trump will spend all his time campaigning in Wisconsin and Ohio while Sanders wins the election by scoring victories in states like Arizona and Texas, inflicting what Trump would consider the ultimate humiliation - being turned into the new Hillary Clinton.

 

[The39thStep]

 

[RTWL]

That trend line ^^ is poorly fitted. It’s being skewed by the extreme points at the 100% out-spend end of the graph. From eye, it looks like a non-linear relationship, so a straight line is an inappropriate fit.

Nevertheless, this pattern has always been well recognised, even if little reported within the corporate press.

lol @ the second half of this article

How Money Affects Elections

To quote the great political philosopher Cyndi Lauper, “Money changes everything.” And nowhere is that proverb more taken to heart than in a federal election, w…

fivethirtyeight.com

and there is this

Spend money, win votes

Stark New Evidence on How Money Shapes America’s Elections

Oversights of two generations of social scientists have weakened democracy.

www.ineteconomics.org

trust them pesky neo-liberal social scientists to make such a silly oversight

 

[FridgeMagnet]

‘I Like This Candidate Now And Will Vote For Him,’ Says Area Man After Having To Watch 12th Bloomberg Ad In Single Day

‘I Like This Candidate Now And Will Vote For Him,’ Says Area Man After Having To Watch 12th Bloomberg Ad In Single Day

LEWISTON, ME—Announcing his newfound support for the former New York mayor, local Democratic voter Lucas Butterfield calmly stated, “I like this candidate now and will vote for him,” after seeing a Mike Bloomberg ad for the 12th time in a single day, sources confirmed Thursday. “The ninth ad...

politics.theonion.com

 

[Nylock]

Buttigieg just dropped out...

 

[Marty1]

Looks like the US media is starting to worry about the prospect of Bernie Sanders becoming potentially the next president.

Opinion | Don't normalize socialism — The Hill

The degree to which Sanders's policies would transform our economy, polity and society dwarfs anything associated with Trump's words and deeds.

apple.news

 

[Yossarian]

Looks like the US media is starting to worry about the prospect of Bernie Sanders becoming potentially the next president.

Opinion | Don't normalize socialism — The Hill

The degree to which Sanders's policies would transform our economy, polity and society dwarfs anything associated with Trump's words and deeds.

apple.news

That crank also thinks the New Deal was a bad idea - not surprising giving his background.

Richard J. Shinder is a financial services executive in New York and founder of Theatine Partners, a financial consultancy. In a 25-year Wall Street career, he has worked in various advisory, principal and managerial roles for firms including The Blackstone Group, Goldman Sachs and Perella Weinberg Partners, among others.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like the US media is starting to worry about the prospect of Bernie Sanders becoming potentially the next president.

Opinion | Don't normalize socialism — The Hill

The degree to which Sanders's policies would transform our economy, polity and society dwarfs anything associated with Trump's words and deeds.

apple.news

Yes, the monolithic us media

 

[TomUS]

Bernie will win the nomination. "Socialism" will be the issue of the campaign. The evil orange bafoon will get 4 more years.

 

[Shechemite]

Bernie will win the nomination. "Socialism" will be the issue of the campaign. The evil orange bafoon will get 4 more years.

the American far right will be loving it

 

[maomao]

Bernie will win the nomination. "Socialism" will be the issue of the campaign. The evil orange bafoon will get 4 more years.

So you won't campaign for Sanders if he wins?

 

[NoXion]

Bernie will win the nomination. "Socialism" will be the issue of the campaign. The evil orange bafoon will get 4 more years.

Because the Dem superdelegates fixing the contest in favour of the establishment's favourite worked out so well last time, didn't it?

 

[flypanam]

Well the good folks of Texas have a view of Bernie's socialism

'Absolutely Remarkable': Poll Shows Democratic Voters in Texas and California View Socialism More Positively Than Capitalism

"Did not see those Texas numbers on socialism coming," tweeted HillTV's Krystal Ball.

www.commondreams.org

and its favourable...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Bernie will win the nomination. "Socialism" will be the issue of the campaign. The evil orange bafoon will get 4 more years.

I don't see how that's really different from previous elections. They branded Obama a socialist. They brand every democrat with that tag, so much so, that its has ceased to have as much power. The democratic candidate might as well own it and explain what his policies would look like in practice.