belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
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US Democratic Party Primaries 2019
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I'd love to see the phone logs of a number of Democratic Party officials for the last few days.
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I’m watching the CNN coverage of the Super Tuesday primaries. It’s awful, both in terms of the execrable number of adverts and the centrist punditry that obsessively insists that Trump can only be beaten from the centre despite mounting evidence to the contrary.
In fact the CNN exit polls are revealing. 42% of voters want ‘compete change’ of the way the economy is managed. A majority support Sanders position on healthcare. As the pundits sit there praying for a Biden bounce the electorate continues to move away from the political tradition and ideas he represents
Yossarian
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Might be a bit early to declare Biden the winner - he racked up a lot of wins in states that are going to vote Republican in November, but the Democratic states were split more evenly between Sanders and Biden and Sanders has taken California - looks like it's going to be close in Texas as well.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
That's true but it's not relevant to the delegate count. I agree with kabbes Biden is now in pole position.
Yossarian
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There's 415 delegates at stake in California - so far Sanders has 33, Bloomberg has 2, and Biden has 1 - I think Sanders is likely to end up still ahead in the delegate count and the map doesn't look great for Biden after that.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
No doubt that Sanders will come out ahead in California but Texas is going to be close and Biden's now the only centrist candidate, so doesn't have to deal with a split vote. It's definitely been a better night for Biden than Sanders
Yossarian
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Best-case scenario for Sanders now is probably if Warren drops out and endorses him while Bloomberg stays in and takes some votes from Biden.
Though since that would leave one 77-year-old man and two 78-year-old men in the race, Warren may want to wait and see what happens with the coronavirus outbreak over the next few weeks - how many hands do these candidates shake on a daily basis?
Though since that would leave one 77-year-old man and two 78-year-old men in the race, Warren may want to wait and see what happens with the coronavirus outbreak over the next few weeks - how many hands do these candidates shake on a daily basis?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It was always going to be a good night for Biden. Especially once the other centrist candidates dropped out for him. To be fair, at one point his campaign looked dead so it’s been a very good night unfortunately. It’s been a disaster for Bloomberg who has just wasted €1/2 Billion of his own money.
The most disappointing element of the night was a) how close Sanders came in a number of places and b) if he could have increased turnout - his big appeal last time - he might have squeaked a few more.
As for Warren if she continues after these results you’d have to ask why and in whose interest
The most disappointing element of the night was a) how close Sanders came in a number of places and b) if he could have increased turnout - his big appeal last time - he might have squeaked a few more.
As for Warren if she continues after these results you’d have to ask why and in whose interest
Flavour
hang the bankers
It's looking like 4 more years of trump. Fucking Democrat party, no lessons learned in 4 years since establishment centrist Hillary got beaten. Joe Biden is basically the Democrat version of trump too in terms of his social ineptitude and tendency to say ridiculous things, image over substance. I don't even know what grounds Biden can fight trump on. What has he got to offer? Why would anyone who voted for trump in 2016 switch and vote for Biden instead in 2020? It's a dark day.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It’s an exercise in delusion. As the polls, and their own base, polarises the Democrats cling on to a centre ground that is emptier by the day.
Biden will be an awful candidate. His stated appeal seems to be that he was VP in an administration that swept up the last mass expression of hope and faith in third way triangulating politics and extinguished them.
Like Labour and Starmer the lessons the Democrats have learnt about how to tackle right wing populism and figures who are ‘beyond politics’ have been entirely the wrong ones
Trump’s campaign messages are already written....
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Arbeter Fraynd
Active Member
Is the Obama connection the only reason Biden is doing so well with Black voters? Seems odd
ska invita
back on the other side
it would be helpful now if Biden has a proper meltdown. all the focus is on him and theres a long campaign trail to go, hopefully the pressure will be too much for him. hes fucked up before he can fuck it up again. heres hoping yesterday was peak biden
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Isn't it the same strategy that HRM followed 'If we lose one blue collar in the city we'll pick up two moderate republicans in the suburbs" shtick? I think two things have been laid bare over the last 4 years, 1. 'Never Trump'ers all voted Trump and 2 moderate Republicans don't exist.
Sorry Yossarian replying to two of your posts makes look like I'm having a go, I'm not.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Absolutely .For the anyone but Saunders camp in the Democrats having Blomberg/Warren still in the race with Biden would be a disaster.Far better to have one anti Saunders candidiate.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
That is the reason given by the American punditry. Fuck knows why:
Liberals Ignored High Black Unemployment Under Obama, Won’t Celebrate Record Lows Under Trump
Last week, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics posted the lowest overall black unemployment figure ever recorded at 5.4 percent. According to a Project 21 analysis, reported in a press release last week after the jobs report was released, this was the sixth record-low black unemployment rate achi
nationalcenter.org
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
He does play up the Obama angle a hell of a lot. Mentions him in every speech and soundbyte. Has Obama actually given him an endorsement yet?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Nope, the first thing you'd do is overlook what the data is telling you.
Not for the first time
Have a link from the house journal of American liberalism: Opinion | Democrats Gave Obama a Free Pass. That Could Hurt Us on Election Day.
Have you got anything to say about what it is telling you about Obama and the black working class??
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Whatever.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Have there been any non-disastrous presidents?
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
The one who died of pneumonia after 30 days in the job?
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