US Democratic Party Primaries 2019

[Yossarian]

The sad part is, Trump will probably successfully cling to the "outsider" label, even though it was only 15 months ago that Republicans were warning about the danger of "radical leftists" seizing power from centrist Democrats and impeaching Trump if the party took control of the House.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

This is based on 62% of the vote being counted (‘very securely’ according to the Iowa Dems). Sanders leading the popular vote.

Buttigieg might be coming centrist candidate of the centre....although he did go all in for this


Buttigieg on top, after the Iowa Democratic party announces partial results
Pete Buttigieg is on top, with a narrow lead over his 2020 competitors, according to the state Democrats, who have released partial results after an extended delay. These results represent 62% of precincts.
Here’s a breakdown:
Pete Buttigieg: 26.9% of the state delegates
Bernie Sanders: 25.1%
Elizabeth Warren: 18.3%
Joe Biden: 15.6%
Amy Klobuchar: 12.6%

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This is based on 62% of the vote being counted (‘very securely’ according to the Iowa Dems). Sanders leading the popular vote.

Buttigieg might be coming centrist candidate of the centre....although he did go all in for this


Buttigieg on top, after the Iowa Democratic party announces partial results
Pete Buttigieg is on top, with a narrow lead over his 2020 competitors, according to the state Democrats, who have released partial results after an extended delay. These results represent 62% of precincts.
Here’s a breakdown:
Pete Buttigieg: 26.9% of the state delegates
Bernie Sanders: 25.1%
Elizabeth Warren: 18.3%
Joe Biden: 15.6%
Amy Klobuchar: 12.6%

Those numbers are how the delegates are portioned out. If you go by the popular vote, the number for Buttigieg and Sanders flip rather neatly.

Biden better pick it up fast, or he's toast.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Those numbers are how the delegates are portioned out. If you go by the popular vote, the number for Buttigieg and Sanders flip.

Biden better pick it up fast, or he's toast.

I know. That’s what I said!

I agree about Biden. He’s dreadful - just a charisma free zone. I think Buttigieg might get money behind him now as the best ‘stop Bernie’ hope of the centre. Until Super Tuesday at least

 

[flypanam]

Current Affairs have released an emergency podcast over the Iowa mess up. ‎Current Affairs on Apple Podcasts I think current affairs is one of the better American mags. Nathan Robinson, the editor is a socialist who sees great value in the anarchist tradition.

 

[skyscraper101]

A new poll suggests Bloomberg is now tied with Warren in third place.

Mike Bloomberg Tied For Third Place With Elizabeth Warren in New Poll

Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York City, raced to a third place tie with Senator Elizabeth Warren in a new Democratic primary poll released Friday.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Cid]

How do they still not have complete figures?

 

[Ted Striker]

The drama around the count aside, Biden tanking is encouraging news.

 

[Ted Striker]

Still not sure what Bloomberg is doing? Spunking billions on his campaign, when hes not allowed in the count?!

 

[Cid]

The drama around the count aside, Biden tanking is encouraging news.

I dunno, assuming his performance is as bad as it looks, his support could swing to former mayo.

 

[petee]

Still not sure what Bloomberg is doing? Spunking billions on his campaign, when hes not allowed in the count?!

he may be now, and he's said that even if he's not nominated he'll spend megabucks to support the nominee.

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[petee]

 

[skyscraper101]

Still not sure what Bloomberg is doing? Spunking billions on his campaign, when hes not allowed in the count?!

His eye is on March 3 Super Tuesday. His whole strategy is different to the rest. And he's currently tied at third according to this poll.

Bloomberg rises to third place alongside Warren in national poll

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg saw a 6-point bump in the latest Hill-HarrisX survey of the Democratic presidential primary.The nationwide poll, which was released Friday, shows Bloomb…

thehill.com

 

[The39thStep]

His eye is on March 3 Super Tuesday. His whole strategy is different to the rest. And he's currently tied at third according to this poll.

Bloomberg rises to third place alongside Warren in national poll

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg saw a 6-point bump in the latest Hill-HarrisX survey of the Democratic presidential primary.The nationwide poll, which was released Friday, shows Bloomb…

thehill.com

I guess Biden’s vote has to collapse a bit for Bloomberg to be seen as either the best anti Saunders candidate or the unity candidate ?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

His eye is on March 3 Super Tuesday. His whole strategy is different to the rest. And he's currently tied at third according to this poll.

Bloomberg rises to third place alongside Warren in national poll

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg saw a 6-point bump in the latest Hill-HarrisX survey of the Democratic presidential primary.The nationwide poll, which was released Friday, shows Bloomb…

thehill.com

I'm not certain that I'm reading that right, but isn't that poll a month old?

 

[skyscraper101]

I'm not certain that I'm reading that right, but isn't that poll a month old?

Yeah strange, they seem to have used an old poll to illustrate it. More recent ones are here.

2020 Democratic Primary

morningconsult.com

 

[Cid]

NEWS!!! They have finally updated the results, the excitement is palpable!

By 3%.

 

[Nylock]

At this rate the NH primary will have been run before Iowa fully discloses its results. What a total fucking shower.

 

[Marty1]

there's enough to say about biden without resorting to Q-anon shit like that.

Only a billionaire man of the people can save America, apparently

The CNN pundits loved it and tried to spin as an important moment for Warren. I thought it looked a bit shit.

Just reading these posts reminds me, in part, of that old interview CNN did with Milton William Cooper back in 1992.

Sure he mentioned that eventually a billionaire would win the presidency, he worked for naval intelligence and had Q clearance - maybe this is where all the tinfoilers get their ideas from.

Just sayin.

 

[Idris2002]

538's current forecast looks very good for the B-man:

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?

FiveThirtyEight's polls and forecast for the 2020 Democratic presidential primary election.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[Cid]

The NYT (may be paywalled, I've just run out of free articles so only have it open on my phone ) is also reporting that some of the results that have been released are 'riddled with inconsistencies and other flaws'. More than 100 precincts (according to their analysis) 'reported results that were internally inconsistent, that were missing data or that were not possible under the complex rules of the Iowa caucus'. They don't see any particular bias in favour of one candidate or another, and most errors aren't major. But not looking great for the caucus system.

 

[Cid]

The anti-Sanders hints on this are funny, as if it's somehow his fault for insisting on transparency in the process and actually recording numbers.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Still not sure what Bloomberg is doing? Spunking billions on his campaign, when hes not allowed in the count?!

he can also engage in an undignified vendetta against Trump with huge media spend drawing fire from other candidates.

This is going to be interesting....alas, I suspect, at the end of the day, we´re in for four more years of Trump. I really don´t see Bernie as presidential.

 

[Cid]

he can also engage in an undignified vendetta against Trump with huge media spend drawing fire from other candidates.

This is going to be interesting....alas, I suspect, at the end of the day, we´re in for four more years of Trump. I really don´t see Bernie as presidential.

Whatever is 'presidential' went out the window with Trump (if it hadn't already with the various shitshows before him). I do suspect he'd lose to Trump; too many vested interests, still too much fear of 'socialism', too many bitter liberals etc. But 'presidential' is a meaningless term.

 

[pesh]

I really don´t see Bernie as presidential.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This is going to be interesting....alas, I suspect, at the end of the day, we´re in for four more years of Trump. I really don´t see Bernie as presidential.

I think we need to examine the internal consistency of that statement.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Whatever is 'presidential' went out the window with Trump (if it hadn't already with the various shitshows before him). I do suspect he'd lose to Trump; too many vested interests, still too much fear of 'socialism', too many bitter liberals etc. But 'presidential' is a meaningless term.

you´re right...I should probably have put inverted commas round it or used an emoji

I suspect a lot of Americans wouldn´t vote for Pete Buttigieg for all the wrong reasons too.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

I think we need to examine the internal consistency of that statement.

Interesting as in I've no skin in the game...I'm having to live under the "Tropical Trump" here in Brazil.
As a centrist who thinks Presidents achieve more if they can work across the aisle, I'd favour Biden or Bloomberg. But maybe those days are over.

 

[Cid]

Interesting as in I've no skin in the game...I'm having to live under the "Tropical Trump" here in Brazil.
As a centrist who thinks Presidents achieve more if they can work across the aisle, I'd favour Biden or Bloomberg. But maybe those days are over.

I suspect Biden couldn't work his way out of multi-story carpark these days.

 

[Cid]

Across the aisles with the post-Trump, far-right courting republicans. Fuck me.