TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
The result from the Glasgow outpost of the Iowa caucus is in:
US Democratic Party Primaries 2019
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I'm a bit jealous. Our caucus didn't have beer.
It does show one of the strengths of the caucus format. The ability of people to network and meet each is really valuable. At ours, I met neighbors who lived a block away from me that I had never met.
There are drawbacks too. It can be difficult for everyone to get there. Anyone who works for a living or goes to school might have trouble getting to a caucus. Or, transportation itself might be an issue.
It does show one of the strengths of the caucus format. The ability of people to network and meet each is really valuable. At ours, I met neighbors who lived a block away from me that I had never met.
There are drawbacks too. It can be difficult for everyone to get there. Anyone who works for a living or goes to school might have trouble getting to a caucus. Or, transportation itself might be an issue.
Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
Sanders is claiming victory based on his campaigns internal polling. It's a gong show.
Mayor Pete talks and talks and talks and says absolutely nothing ......even more than most politicians. The Dems made a fool of themselves....trying to count votes with some app that didn't work. It's looking like 4 more years for Mr. Orange.
Yossarian
⏭️
Not a great night for the Democrats' image - but the very first day of primary season might be a little too soon to write them off. Unless it turns out that Joe Biden won by a landslide.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Never saw that coming Juan Guaido wins
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Wow. At the moment it appears that the Iowa Democratic party couldn't manage itself out of a paper bag.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
His long term trajectory up to this point was questionable given his lack of support among black voters. But then Biden, who had been polling neck and neck with Bernie, absolutely tanked. I think Pete decided to pull a Bush 2000 move and declare victory in order to control the narrative and position himself as the new establishment choice.
a wet paper bag YW
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Pete's made a lot of claims that don't stand up to scrutiny. I doubt if this will be any different tbf.
Yossarian
⏭️
I think he was planning to claim victory after finishing anywhere in the top four and just went with the speech he already had prepared - he later argued that just being there was a victory.
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Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Plus, a source in mayo Pete's campaign said this little gem earlier to Reuters:
...so trying to play it both ways: declare victory and then when you get caught in the lie, claim the opposition victory is illegitimate. No wonder that guy draws so much ire from the Sanders lot...
...so trying to play it both ways: declare victory and then when you get caught in the lie, claim the opposition victory is illegitimate. No wonder that guy draws so much ire from the Sanders lot...
teqniq
DisMembered
Nothing to see here, move along...
moreover:
Investors Rush to Scrub Ties to Firm Behind Iowa Clusterf*ck
The frantic cleanup put a microscope on one of Democratic Party’s fastest-rising digital stars.
www.thedailybeast.com
moreover:
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
As a software engineer I have trouble with all conspiracy theories relating to this, as it just seems like absolutely standard practice - shit custom app sold to idiots and written by clueless 20-somethings without any proper structure or management somehow mysteriously fucks up.
Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
It looks like several former Hillary staffers work for the company, and Mayo Pete has spent money at that company. If true it's a massive conflict of interest at the very least.
Cid
Proper break this time
Conspiracy is obviously a stretch... But, from the little decent info I can find, it's a pretty ludicrous conflict of interest.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Given the Democrats ludicrous and doomed to failure from the start attempt to impeach Trump. Given their addiction to the idea that the way to beat him is from the centre - despite all evidence to the contrary. And given the use of ‘new technology’ they’d actually go up in my estimation if they were capable of a stitch up of Bernie.
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imposs1904
Thread Killa'
I think there's a Sanders' sleeper cell within the upper echelons of the DNC. There's no other explanation for this monumental fuck up.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Probably very connected with why it has been adopted at all. But that's just everyday business corruption.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Nathan Robinson says the company that built the app is
Return in his pretty good guardian article Joe Biden flopped in Iowa. And so did the Democratic party's reputation | Nathan Robinson that goes into quite a bit of deal about the suppression of the Register’s poll.
The whole thing stinks and it will just stir the pot of conspiracy.
Yossarian
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For all the Democrats' flaws, they can't be accused of failing to impeach Trump, - they successfully impeached him, but predictably failed to secure a conviction from the Republican-controlled Senate.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Precisely. They failed. They were always going to. They’ve cemented in Trump’s outsider image (better than he ever could himself). They’ve revealed themselves to be incompetent insiders.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
i've addressed this line of argument before. please don't waste our time with look-how-much-i-hate-liberals tripe.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
it’s not about hating liberals. It’s the liberals inability/refusal to understand what Trump is, how he gathers agency and how he can be beaten.
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