Urban v's the Commentariat

[agricola]

Can anyone explain this at all? Seems utterly incomprehensible

https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/411567024813637632

Was that what that bloke was signing at the Mandela memorial?

 

[brogdale]

I think it's a shit gag about the NSA.

"...been being..."

urgh.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Bizarre intra-Adbusters/Occupy Wall Street bunfight over who gets to sell (or not sell) the Official Authorised Franklin Mint OWS Commemorative Dinner Plate or something:

http://storify.com/adbusters/stop-selling-occupy

 

[J Ed]

Why are there so many nonsense articles like this http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/13/beyonce-album-flawless-feminism now? A few vague mentions about feminism just seem to be a way for 'intelligent' broadsheets to sell celebrity gossip

 

[DaveCinzano]

Why are there so many nonsense articles like this http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/13/beyonce-album-flawless-feminism now? A few vague mentions about feminism just seem to be a way for 'intelligent' broadsheets to sell celebrity gossip

I blame The Toad.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Amazing, hidden stuff is because other women are too thick to get a blog and write in the guardian and new statesman(we're coming - and we're coming proper)



Mass lol of the day:

I usually stay away from blogged stuff, but read that. Yet again I find my opinion confirmed: That recognising/naming oppression is all very well, but that fighting it (by which I mean beyond writing about it, especially in such a way that you're giving yourself a metaphorical reach-around) is what matters.

 

[ViolentPanda]

To be fair though that was a tweet wasn't it? The format of twitter really lends itself to platitudes like that it's hard to avoid. And LP wrote something in the guardian about it that struck a decent tone and was largely hyperbole free iirc.

I know ULU and that Michael Chessum lad have had a really hard time off the police with his bail, and I was surprised by how casually violent the police have been in response to these demos and strikes, but after the way in which the government dealt out the most draconian sentences and bail conditions for people involved in the riots I can't say i'm shocked at all. I mean this is tame compared to that, thousands were jailed, and further thousands given fines, crippling bail terms, criminal records hat exclude from employment and certain benefits.

Your words ("...surprised by how casually violent the police have been...") caused me more than a few guffaws. All these fuckers have done is taken a page from the 1970s/1980s playbook! This is how it used to be, at protests and even football matches - you pretty much never knew whether the copper you were walking past would take a swing at you!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Bizarre intra-Adbusters/Occupy Wall Street bunfight over who gets to sell (or not sell) the Official Authorised Franklin Mint OWS Commemorative Dinner Plate or something:

http://storify.com/adbusters/stop-selling-occupy

IIRC this was one of Malcolm "not a sex-case" Harris's things - monetising yer activism!

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'm starting to get a little nervous - were Laura or Zoe on the debate team?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com//new...of-denver-high-school-gunman/article15972075/

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm starting to get a little nervous - were Laura or Zoe on the debate team?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com//new...of-denver-high-school-gunman/article15972075/

We can but hope, and that the "close encounter" may have caused them to become reflexive.

Nah. Who am I kidding?

 

[J Ed]

Why are there so many nonsense articles like this http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/13/beyonce-album-flawless-feminism now? A few vague mentions about feminism just seem to be a way for 'intelligent' broadsheets to sell celebrity gossip

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture...-new-album-multi-faceted-thing-awe-and-wonder

 

[Bakunin]

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture...-new-album-multi-faceted-thing-awe-and-wonder

Lester Bangs must be turning in his grave.

 

[J Ed]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed3m
The new Beyonce is even better listening if you picture Lilly Allen spinning in a pit of her own racist irrelevance

The first law of the Vampires’ Castle is: individualise and privatise everything. While in theory it claims to be in favour of structural critique, in practice it never focuses on anything except individual behaviour.

...

The VC, as dupe-servants of the ruling class, does the opposite: it pays lip service to ‘solidarity’ and ‘collectivity’, while always acting as if the individualist categories imposed by power really hold. Because they are petit-bourgeois to the core, the members of the Vampires’ Castle are intensely competitive, but this is repressed in the passive aggressive manner typical of the bourgeoisie. What holds them together is not solidarity, but mutual fear – the fear that they will be the next one to be outed, exposed, condemned.

 

[J Ed]

A spectre is haunting Europe. The spectre of deciding which multimillionaire singer's vague nod to identity politics in their commercial output is the politically correct one.

 

[Bakunin]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed3m
The new Beyonce is even better listening if you picture Lilly Allen spinning in a pit of her own racist irrelevance

I'm tempted to retweet that to the celeb in question.

Hope you've got deep pockets or a good brief working pro bono, Penny Dreadful...

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

What did Lilly Allen do?

 

[DaveCinzano]

What did Lilly Allen do?

 

[belboid]

I'm tempted to retweet that to the celeb in question.

Hope you've got deep pockets or a good brief working pro bono, Penny Dreadful...

she'd have to sue quite a few people. the dreadful one is far from the only critic (of the Hard Out here video)

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Write a shit song?

 

[belboid]

the only twerkers are black n asian, so its laughing at them (supposedly)

 

[J Ed]

the only twerkers are black n asian, so its laughing at them (supposedly)

Which is supposed to satirise Miley Cyrus' song, and it may not be the greatest way of doing it but...

The fourth law of the Vampires’ Castle is: essentialize. While fluidity of identity, pluarity and multiplicity are always claimed on behalf of the VC members – partly to cover up their own invariably wealthy, privileged or bourgeois-assimilationist background – the enemy is always to be essentialized. Since the desires animating the VC are in large part priests’ desires to excommunicate and condemn, there has to be a strong distinction between Good and Evil, with the latter essentialized. Notice the tactics. X has made a remark/ has behaved in a particular way – these remarks/ this behaviour might be construed as transphobic/ sexist etc. So far, OK. But it’s the next move which is the kicker. X then becomes defined as a transphobe/ sexist etc.

 

[rekil]

Aguilera mouthing like a little girl

Infantilising Xtina is a little bit sexist. I'm sure LP has complained about being called a silly schoolgirl and the like, but it's them what make the rules.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

the only twerkers are black n asian, so its laughing at them (supposedly)

Well there is another white woman in there too other than Lily Allen. I wonder though, if it was only white people in the video would that also be racist? Cultural appropriation blah blah blah... ? Twittersectionalists are weird.

 

[DaveCinzano]

the only twerkers are black n asian

Infantilising Xtina

Sound like films from one of Richard Desmond's pay-per-view channels.

 

[The Pale King]

What did Lilly Allen do?

I hate that I know this, but she did something else as well as the video. She was having a twitter beef with the rapper Azealia Banks, and she sent her a picture of a penis made up like a golliwog. It can be found here (NSFW obvs) http://twobrowngirls.co/post/55456642182/in-more-racism-news-lily-allen-tweeted-a-picture

...so she has form. I don't know whether L. Penny is working from the full prosecutorial file or whether she is only referring to the video, but if I were her brief I would be entering that into evidence right away.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I hate that I know this, but she did something else as well as the video. She was having a twitter beef with the rapper Azealia Banks, and she sent her a picture of a penis made up like a golliwog. It can be found here (NSFW obvs) http://twobrowngirls.co/post/55456642182/in-more-racism-news-lily-allen-tweeted-a-picture

...so she has form. I don't know whether L. Penny is working from the full prosecutorial file or whether she is only referring to the video, but if I were her brief I would be entering that into evidence right away.

That makes more sense. No ambiguity about a penis golliwog.

 

[revol68]

No ambiguity about a penis golliwog.

Yeah it's usually a stand up guy...

 

[rekil]

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture...-new-album-multi-faceted-thing-awe-and-wonder

"Superpower", a shruggable song with a video of stylised rioting that had me running in squealing circles around my living room. This is not the writhing-against-sexy-police pseudo-radicalism of "Girls (Run The World)". There is not a single spurious circus animal in sight. Instead, there are cop cars on fire. There’s Bey masking up and charging at some armoured heavies, snogging a hooded anarcho-type in a possible nod to that viral photo of the riot-line kiss in Vancouver a couple of years ago.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny/2011/05/beyonce-sexy-dance-riot-video

Revolutions are inherently romantic, and that romance can always be co-opted by the unscrupulous to turn a profit. It's easy to imagine the death-knell of any movement for change starting to ring when its agitators find their slogans appearing on tshirts and mouthed by wealthy popstars with a history of shakin' it for dictators. Not everything, however, can be appropriated..

 

[frogwoman]

bey as in hakim bey?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

bey as in hakim bey?

Nah. Bey as in "short for Beyonce".

I've seen that used before by people who would have no knowledge of Lamborn Wilson, TAZ or anarcho-noncery.